Mfb Corp - Filing of certain prospectuses and communications in connection with business combination transactions (425)
January 10 2008 - 12:15PM
Edgar (US Regulatory)
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Filed by
MutualFirst
Financial,
Inc.
Commission File No:
0-27905
Pursuant to Rule 425 under the
Securtities Act of 1933 and
Deemed Filed Pursuant to Rule
14a-12
under the Securities
Exchange Act of 1934
Subject Company: MFB
Corp.
Commission File No:
001-12279
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Forward-Looking
Statements
When
used
in this filing and in other fillings with the Securities and Exchange
Commission, in press releases or other public shareholder communications, or
in
oral statements made with the approval of an authorized executive officer,
the
words or phrases “believe,” “will likely result,” “are expected to,” “will
continue,” “is anticipated,” “estimate,” “project,” “plans,” or similar
expressions are intended to identify “forward-looking statements” within the
meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. You
are cautioned not to place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements,
which speak only as of the date such statements are made. These
statements may relate to future financial performance, strategic plans or
objectives, revenues or earnings projections, or other financial
information. By their nature, these statements are subject to
numerous uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially
from
those anticipated in the statements. Statements about the expected
timing, completion, financial benefits and other effects of the proposed
MutualFirst
-MFB merger and
all other statements in this filing other than historical facts constitute
forward-looking statements.
Important
factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from the results
anticipated or projected include, but are not limited to, the following: (1)
expected cost savings, synergies and other financial benefits from the
MutualFirst
-MFB merger might
not be realized within the expected time frames and costs or difficulties
relating to integration matters might be greater than expected; (2) the
requisite shareholder and regulatory approvals for the
MutualFirst
-MFB merger might
not be obtained; (3) the credit risks of lending activities, including changes
in the level and direction of loan delinquencies and write-offs and changes
in
estimates of the adequacy of the allowance for loan losses; (4) competitive
pressures among depository institutions; (5) interest rate movements and their
impact on customer behavior and net interest margin; (6) the impact of repricing
and competitors’ pricing initiatives on loan and deposit products; (7) the
ability to adapt successfully to technological changes to meet customers’ needs
and developments in the market place; (8) the ability to access cost-effective
funding; (9) changes in financial markets; (10) changes in economic conditions
in general and in the state of Indiana in particular; (11) the costs, effects
and outcomes of litigation; (12) new legislation or regulatory changes,
including but not limited to changes in federal and/or state tax laws or
interpretations thereof by taxing authorities; (13) changes in accounting
principles, policies or guidelines; and (14) future acquisitions by
MutualFirst
of other
depository institutions or lines of business.
MutualFirst
and MFB do not
undertake any obligation to update any forward-looking statement to reflect
circumstances or events that occur after the date on which the forward-looking
statement is made.
Additional
Information
MutualFirst
will file a
registration statement on Form S-4 with the Securities and Exchange Commission
(the “SEC”) in connection with the proposed transaction. The
registration statement will include a joint proxy statement of
MutualFirst
and MFB that also
constitutes a prospectus of
MutualFirst,
which will be
sent to the shareholders of
MutualFirst
and
MFB. WE URGE SHAREHOLDERS TO READ THE JOINT PROXY
STATEMENT/PROSPECTUS WHEN IT BECOMES AVAILABLE BECAUSE IT WILL CONTAIN IMPORTANT
INFORMATION ABOUT
MUTUALFIRST,
MFB AND THE
PROPOSED TRANSACTION. When filed, this document and other documents
relating to the merger filed by
MutualFirst
and MFB can be
obtained free of charge from the SEC’s website at
www.sec.gov.
These
documents also can be obtained free of charge for accessing
MutualFirst’s
website at
www.mfsbank.com
or by accessing MFB’s website at
www.mfbbank.com.
Alternatively,
these documents, when available, can be obtained free of charge from
MutualFirst
upon written
request to
MutualFirst
Financial, Inc., Secretary, 110 E. Charles St., Muncie, Indiana 47305 or by
calling (765) 747-2800 or from MFB, upon written request to MFB Corp.,
Secretary, 4100 Edison Lakes Parkway, Mishawaka, Indiana 46545, or by calling
(574) 277-4200.
Participants
in this Transaction
MutualFirst
and MFB and
certain of their respective directors and executive officers may be deemed
to be
participants in the solicitation of proxies from shareholders in connection
with
the proposed transaction under the rules of the SEC. INFORMATION
ABOUT THESE PARTICIPANTS MAY BE FOUND IN THE DEFINITIVE PROXY STATEMENT OF
MUTUALFIRST
RELATING TO ITS
2007 ANNUAL MEETING OF SHAREHOLDERS FILED WITH THE SEC BY
MUTUALFIRST
ON MARCH 22, 2007
AND THE DEFINITIVE
PROXY
STATEMENT OF MFB RELATING TO ITS 2008 ANNUAL MEETING OF SHAREHOLDERS FILED
WITH
THE SEC ON DECEMBER 13, 2007. These definitive proxy statements can
be obtained free of charge from the sources indicated
above. Additional information regarding the interests of these
participants will also be included in the joint proxy statement/prospectus
regarding the proposed transaction when it becomes available.
Set forth below is the transcript
from an investor conference call held by
MutualFirst
Financial, Inc. on January 8,
2008. The presentation material referred to in the transacript was filed
with the SEC on January 8, 2008 by
MutualFirst
Financial, Inc. pursuant to
Rule 425 under the Securities Act
of 1933 and Rule 14a-12 under the Securities
Exchange Act of 1934 under cover of a Current Report on Form 8-K.
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MutualFirst
Financial, Incorporated
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Teleconference
January 8, 2008 at 11:00 AM ET
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Event:
MutualFirst Acquisition
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Official
Speakers: Mr. David W. Heeter, President and Chief Executive Officer
of
MutualFirst
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Mr.
Patrick C. Botts, President of Mutual Federal Savings Bank
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Mr.
Timothy J. McArdle, Senior Vice-President and Chief Financial
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Mr.
Charles J. Viater, President and Chief Executive Officer of MFB
Corporation
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OPERATOR:
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Hello
and welcome to the MutualFirst acquisition call. You will be in
listen-only mode during the presentation but there will be an opportunity
afterwards to ask questions. Instructions will follow at that time.
If you
should need assistance during the call, you may signal an Operator
by
pressing “*” then “0” on your touchtone phone. This conference
is being broadcast. I would now like to turn the call over to
David Heeter. Mr. Heeter, you may now begin.
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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Thank
you Brandy. My name is Dave Heeter. I am President and CEO of MutualFirst.
Welcome to our conference call and thanks for joining the call today.
We
are excited about the opportunities we have as we create a stronger
Indiana franchise through the merger and acquisition of MFB Corporation.
As I understand for you folks who are watching the call as well as
listening, there may be a little bit of delay between our voices
and the
Slides so hang with us and I think they will catch up. I would like
to
introduce the others who will be participating in the call today.
On the
call is Pat Botts, President of Mutual Federal Savings Bank, subsidiary
of
MutualFirst, Tim McArdle, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial
Officer from MutualFirst and we are also very pleased to have Chuck
Viater, President and CEO of MFB Corporation on the call as well
today and
each of us will have some remarks during the call.
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We
call your attention to the first slide that you see which is the
Forward-Looking Statements. The next two Slides actually disclaim
our
“forward-looking statements” and the second slide I would ask you to read
those. The second Slide also describes where to find additional
information.
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This
entire presentation can be accessed at
http://www.mfsbank.com
and will be available at the Web address that was listed in the Press
Release and that will also include a couple of pages of Appendix
which
won’t be shown during the call.
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I
would like to start with some key transaction terms and this is just
a
summary but you see the transaction value there is identified as
$37.08
per average share price for this transaction. That is as of the close
of
the market on Friday, January 4, 2008. The approximate aggregate
transaction value reaches $52.7 Million dollars at that price. MFB
Financial will be merged into Mutual Federal Savings Bank. Those
are
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the
two banks in each of our unitary savings and loan holding companies.
The
form of consideration will be 80% stock and 20% cash with MFB shareholders
electing to receive 2.59 shares of MutualFirst stock or $41.00 per
share
in cash and both of those subject to proration. Our assumption is
intended
that MFB options will be rolled into MutualFirst options at the same
exchange rate. The tax treatment is designed to be a tax-free
reorganization at the corporate level. MutualFirst will have 4 MFB
Directors joining both the holding company and bank-level boards
and we
anticipate closing in the second quarter of 2008.
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Now
I would like to introduce Pat Botts, President of Mutual Federal
Savings
Bank and he will share some compelling strategy rationale to this
merger
and transaction.
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PATRICK
C. BOTTS:
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Thanks
Dave. Good morning everyone. I would like to turn your attention
to Page 5
of the presentation, which hopefully you will be seeing on your screen.
My
job today is to tell you a little bit of why we think MutualFirst
and MFB
are a good fit and why we think we can create a better company out
of the
merger of the two. Obviously, all of us in the Midwest who operate
banking
franchises continue to look for ways to continue to see our franchise
and
our businesses grow and maintain market share as well as increase
earnings. One of the things that we have been looking at Mutual Federal
and MutualFirst for a long time is what are the additional areas
in
Indiana that we can expand too. We had a market study several years
back
that identified Elkhart County as a priority for us. We are in fact
in the
process of opening a branch in Elkhart County and for us to have
an
opportunity to partner with MFB in Elkhart County as well as in the
neighboring county of St. Joe (St. Joseph); we think is a great fit
for us
geographically. It takes us to the 11
th
largest depository that is headquartered in the State. That
allows us to create some scale not only to serve our customers better
and
continue to provide them with the products and services that they
need but
also creates scale we hope for further expansion. The Mishianna
market consisting of the South Bend-Mishawaka and Elkhart area has
about
half a million people which will effectively more than double what
we have
as far as a customer base. We also think that we offer each
other very complimentary skills. We both come from a
traditional thrift history but we’ve both been looking to expand into
other core banking businesses. We are both heading toward
creating larger commercial lending portfolios to help our margin
and to
help our interest rate risk position and we certainly think that
MFB
pushes the combined franchise along in that they have a very good
background in that and in fact have a little more commercial lending
than
we do at this point. The combined organization will also have higher
loan
limits and also the South Bend and Mishawaka markets probably have
larger
loan opportunities in them than what we are used to. We also
think that the combined skills of the folks we have in the Commercial
Lending areas will really allow us to do a good job of managing credit
risk and credit administration. Obviously, funding is important
and we think that we have some good sources of low-cost
funding. We all know that the spread business is getting a
little tougher in the banking industry so we have been looking for
enhanced fee opportunities and certainly MFB’s wealth management presence
creates a great opportunity there for us to leverage over a larger
area
and we are really excited about having that addition to the MutualFirst
and Mutual Federal Savings Bank family.
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Turning
to Slide 6, obviously all transactions of this nature have some risk.
We
feel this one is lower than normal. This will be our third major
merger in
the last 7 or 8 years. We have on the MutualFirst side have some
experience at it. We’ve done it before and learned some things as we’ve
gone along and in addition, we’ve acquired some branches so we think we
have a lot of ability to create a successful transaction. We
also think our businesses are a lot alike. Our cultures are
very similar. We are very community banking oriented and really
interested in serving the needs of our local consumer and commercial
and
wealth management clients. So we think that will be a great
fit. We’ve looked hard at the cost savings. The cost savings
projections are 24% of MFB’s cost saves. We think those are
achievable and we think that we will be able to make that happen
without a
huge amount of disruption and so we are very positive about
that. As I mentioned before, I think we have complimentary
skills and complimentary Best Practices. We think that we can
use the strength of each other in this particular case to make us
both
better. Overall, we think this partnership is a very unique
opportunity and we are just really excited about the
possibility. Finishing up Slide 6 will be Tim McArdle, who is
our CFO and he is going to talk a little bit about the numbers and
then
move on from there.
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TIMOTHY
J. McARDLE:
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Thanks
Pat and good morning everyone. In addition to the reasons you already
heard that make this a compelling transaction, it makes sense financially.
The merger is expected to be immediately accretive to EPS and 7%
accretive
on consensus 2009 estimates. In 2010 and beyond, we are targeting
double-digit EPS accretion. Dave will review the cost savings benefits
we
expect to achieve a little later in the presentation. Although not
factored into our Pro Forma analysis, opportunities for future revenue
enhancements are very real. One example would be the opportunity
to expand
MFB’s Trust Services operation, which we currently don’t offer throughout
our branch network. The transaction also affords us more
strategic flexibility. With $1.5 Billion in assets, $1.2
Billion in loans, $1.1 Billion in deposits and a market cap of over
$100
Million, we will be in an improved competitive position in all of
our
markets. This in turn will allow us to increase the overall franchise
value. Those of you who have been following MutualFirst for any
length of time know that one of our strategies has been to diversify
our
loan portfolio. Back in the late 1990’s almost 70% of the
portfolio consisted of 1 to 4 family mortgages. Since that time
we have been able to grow the commercial loan portfolio from just
over 5%
to over 18% of the portfolio currently while reducing the 1 to 4
family
portfolio to just under 54%. With this merger, our loan mix
will be close to 50-50, 1 to 4 family versus all other types of
loans. Also with a large portion of MFB’s portfolio being
variable rate, the Pro Forma bank will have a more manageable interest
rate risk position. In addition, the overall yield of the
resulting portfolio will increase. Under the deposit side our
strategy is then to decrease our dependency on retail CDs and increase
our
core checking and savings accounts. This transaction will
contribute to the success of this strategy in that core deposits
will
increase from 34% to almost 39% of the total deposits post
merger. In addition, funding costs from deposits will decrease
from 3.50 to about 3.33. We will turn it back over to Dave.
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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Thanks
Tim. What you see now is just a map of the complimentary branch franchises
that we are forming in the State of Indiana. As Pat mentioned, this
map
identifies the geography of the combined organizations and will bring
our
branch total to 33 and then we have some
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Trust
Offices that are identified down there in gold which is really exciting
because the Office in Indianapolis or in Carmel is designated as
a Branch
Office. In addition, the Chart highlights that we will become the
11
th
largest depository headquartered in the State of Indiana and you
can see
all of the Indiana rankings there as they stood on June 30
th
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This
next slide highlights the markets that we gain. Again, Pat mentioned
this
through our alliance here. Total population projected population
growth
are favorable and MFB’s main markets, you can see those listed there in
gold, shown there in gold compared to our few largest markets and
the
prospects of more positive growth and household income on an already
larger base is very encouraging to our franchise and at the same
time, the
stability of the markets we are in should provide some added breadth
to
expand in the markets that we have the greatest opportunity.
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The
next slide identifies the relative deposit market share in the Top
Indiana
MSAs and what you see there is that in the South Bend – Mishawaka area in
that MSA where MFB is headquartered, you can see that it is a large
market
– it is the 4
th
largest MSA in the State of Indiana and MFB has a solid 4 spot there
in
the Rank and Market Share and Elkhart-Goshen is also another large
MSA and
you can see where 3 of our largest markets are in the Muncie MSA,
the
Warsaw MSA and the Marion MSA. So we are excited about what
this brings to our franchise and in terms of market but we are also
very
excited about the experienced management team that this combined
organization will form. What you see here is just a snapshot of
7 key folks to the transition as well as the moving forward
company. You see the years of experience in
banking. I think this is a very experienced
team. Pat, as President and Chief Operating Officer and you are
going to hear from Chuck in a minute but Chuck brings a lot of experience
to us and will lead not only our Northern Region but will also lead
some
of the very important expanding business opportunities that we have
in
commercial lending and trust. Tim McArdle, our CFO has been our
CFO here for 27 years and has been in the banking business for
30. Steve Selby is the most tenured in either of the companies
and is SVP of Operations and heads the Technology and Internal Operations
area and Don Kyle is from MFB. Don is a very seasoned
commercial business-banking leader. We are excited to bring him onboard,
as we are James Coleman who has got 40 years of experience in the
Trust
field and Wealth Management and has done an excellent job of leading
MFB
into the Trust and Wealth Management market. We are really
excited about this team and we are excited about other people that
aren’t
listed here in both MFB as well as MutualFirst today. I will
turn it back to Pat to talk a little bit about some opportunities
that we
have.
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PATRICK
C. BOTTS:
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That
is one of the things that is very interesting to us and very important
as
I stated before is increasing the Fee Income and you can see here
that
MutualFirst has been running at about 26% of its Revenue and Fee
Income
and MFB at about 35%. Peer Groups is about 27% and we think combined
it
will be at about 29%. One of the big reasons for that is the Wealth
Management Fees and the assets under management that MFB has. Their
assets
under management are over $400 Million combined that with about $140
Million that we have and we think we can create some scale there
as the
Trust business is a difficult business to get in and become profitable
but
we think that on a community bank basis could create a pretty good
size
Trust Department and Wealth Management area
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that
we can use to generate some significant revenue and that we can leverage
across the remainder of our footprint in addition to the footprint
that
MFB has. So we are really excited about having that increased
contribution.
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The
next Slide talks about credit quality. Obviously, that is at the
top of
everyone’s mind right now with what is going on nationally. I
think the message that we want to try to send here is that both companies
have exhibited a consistency in credit quality over a period of
time. Both companies charge offs have been consistently running
at 30 basis points or below. MFB is a little bit lower than
MutualFirst. One of things that MutualFirst has is a relatively
large consumer loan portfolio which as a rule will produce some charge
offs on a consistent basis but it is also homogenous and produces
charge
offs that are reasonably controlled and predicted and so we think
we’ve
been able to be pretty consistent there and MFB on the other hand
has a
little greater concentration on the commercial real estate side and
commercial side and will have a little bit more volatility but I
think one
of the important things to know is that neither one of us are sub
prime
lenders (laugh). We are not aggressive, super aggressive home
equity lenders and so we have pretty good control of credit
quality. Obviously, we are subject to the same trends that
everybody else is and we will roll with the economy but I don’t think
you’ll see us having a lot of big surprises.
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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Just
to talk a little more about the transaction pricing and some of the
financials. We believe the pricing of the transaction is reasonable.
Here
you see the pricing of the deal and how it compares to other announced
deals since January of 2006. You can see in Price to Book Value and
Price
to Tangible Book, Price the last 12-month Core EPS and Core Deposit
and
Market Premium appear favorable to the transactions. Market Premium
is a
little bit higher and I think we believe that these numbers represent
the
fairness of an acquisition with merger characteristics and I think
that is
part of why this deal makes sense. I think we are two institutions
that
are really taking an opportunity here to take the best of each and
turn it
into one and to do that it takes people from both sides and that
is a big
part of this transaction.
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The
next slide does speak to what we think this is going to provide to
the
combined organization moving forward. You see here are some meaningful
earnings improvement. We are excited about the go forward earning
opportunities that we believe are in this transaction and we are
dedicated
to achieving this accretion. The cost savings listed represent
approximately 7.3% of the combined entity expenses in ’08 and 9.7% and
9.8% in 2009 and 2010, respectively. I think all of you know
that Cost Saves are an important part of the process and we believe
that
we have those opportunities to do that – just that. You can see
that we also expect meaningful after-tax EPS accretion starting in
’08 and
you see it accelerating and we think that a lot of that is for the
reasons
we’ve talked about so far. We believe that the dilution in this
transaction is warranted given the expected earnings pick up that
we
see. As Tim mentioned earlier, our numbers don’t reflect any
kind of revenue enhancements at this time, however we do believe
there are
some out there. This transaction also allows us to maintain
adequate capital for flexibility in the future. We remain a
well-capitalized company and it is very important to our regulators
as
well as important to create opportunity for us moving
forward. Financial assumptions are used in our analysis are
listed on this Slide. We did fix the exchange ratio at
2.59. We fixed the cash share
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price
of $41.00 on 20% of MFB shares. We are going to roll options. We
have
assumed 24% cost savings of target, which translates into the numbers
you,
just previously saw. It is about $4.5 Million dollars in 2009. We
have
assumed the 7% opportunity cost of cash. We are estimating about
$4.7
Million dollars pre-tax deal related expenses and a 3% core deposit
intangible of $4.9 Million amortized over 10 years of the Sum of
Years
Digits (SYD) process. Again, we have assumed the closing date of
June 30,
2008. It is now my pleasure to introduce Chuck Viater. Chuck is the
President and CEO of MFB Corp. and I think I can speak for certainly
the
people on the call that we are excited at MutualFirst to work with
Chuck
and the rest of his MFB team and we’ve asked Chuck to share some
perspective from MFB. Chuck
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CHARLES
J. VIATER:
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Thank
you Dave very much and good morning everyone who is on the call.
We
appreciate your participation this morning and I appreciate the
opportunity to provide a perspective from MFB’s point of view. For years,
MFB’s strategic plan has revolved around growth and profitability that
generates ever increasing value for our shareholders and in the last
12
years we’ve almost tripled in size and most of that took place organically
and we’ve seen our earnings per share more than quadruple. We
are proud of that accomplishment but we are not satisfied. In
recent years we’ve seen some changes in the marketplace, typical economic
conditions and heightened competition and as a result, both the balance
sheet growth and profit improvements have slowed considerably and
as a
result during this time we have examined our business objective and
our
strategic initiatives and sought innovative ways to continue our
success. Over the last 6 months, we’ve had ever intensifying
discussions with MutualFirst mainly because they share our perspective,
our vision, our philosophy and our culture expectations of community
banking. Now we will go to work on the challenges of the
integration process that will transform to good banks into one outstanding
bank and we expect to identify as they pointed out I think Pat as
well, to
identify the Best Practices of our separate organizations and meld
them
and combine ourselves into one effective, efficient and profitable
organization that further builds the value for our shareholders going
forward. We are excited about this opportunity. We
are committed to the numbers you’ve seen in the Presentation today and we
are ready to move forward post haste to make this whole thing
happen. So those are my comments and thank you Dave.
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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Thanks
Chuck and that concludes our presentation. We will answer questions
if we
can. So we would open up that opportunity to hear from anybody who
has
questions.
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OPERATOR:
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At
this time if you would like to ask a question, you may do so by pressing
“*” then “1” on your touchtone phone. You will hear a tone to confirm that
you have entered the question queue. Please press “*” then “2”
to remove your name from the list. Again, pressing “*” then “1”
allows you to ask a question. “*” then “2” removes your name
from the list.
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Our
first question comes from Christopher McGratty of KBW. Please go
ahead.
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CHRISTOPHER
McGRATTY:
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Good
morning!
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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Hi
Chris!
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CHRISTOPHER
McGRATTY:
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I’ve
got a question on capital. Can you remind me of your targeted
capital levels internally both longer term with respect to tangible
capital and red cap?
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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Our
tangible capital right now is about 7.6. Our total capital is about
10.77.
We think that obviously our total cap we want to maintain a 10% or
higher
level. Tangible equity post closing will be 6.68 and we are very
comfortable with that number. Post closing capital, total capital
ratio we
projected at 10.28 so again we feel those are very adequate capital
levels
and think we are okay there.
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CHRISTOPHER
McGRATTY:
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Okay
great and my next question is regarding earnings, your earnings
assumptions. It seems to me that your ’09 number using consensus I believe
I think you said something along the lines of 7% accretive or
$0.08. Is my math correct, is this backing into like a 115
earnings run rate pro forma?
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CHARLES
J. VIATER:
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Yeah
that is what that would work into.
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CHRISTOPHER
McGRATTY:
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Okay
great and I guess my last question on the efficiency and the cost
save.
You know given it seems like a little bit of an elevated cost structure
at
MFB. Maybe longer term, where do you see I guess the combined entities
efficiency ratio going? I guess longer term.
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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Our
Pro Forma shows an efficiency ratio at just a shade over 70. I think
probably we all would think that still might be a little bit high.
I think
our goal will still be to reduce that under 70%. I think if we can
achieve
that in the pro forma and then see where we go from there, I will
have a
little better handle on what our target is but we would expect it
to be
south of 70 and moving closer to 60 if we can get it there.
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CHRISTOPHER
McGRATTY:
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Okay
thank you.
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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You
bet!
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OPERATOR:
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The
next question is from Melissa Miller of First Manhattan. Please go
ahead.
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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Hi
Melissa!
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MELISSA
MILLER:
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I
was… just a couple of questions. I was wondering was
this a negotiated deal or a bid situation?
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DAVID
W.HEETER:
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It
was negotiated.
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MELISSA
MILLER:
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And
Dave you mentioned I think what you were alluding to was that the
earnings
accretion makes up for any dilution and I am assuming you were talking
about tangible book value dilution. Can you kind of walk us through?
When
I do a calculation, I give the… your diluting changeable book value by
over $3 a share and so I guess I just wanted to see if you could
(Interrupted)
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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If
I miss-spoke there I don’t think we are going to earn it all back in a
short period of time so there is dilution there but I think if you
look at
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where
our PE is and when you look at our opportunity for reflection in
the
market of what we think we can earn, we think in the long run we
are much
better off to seek the earnings through this partnership than
independently. So there is dilution there obviously and we start
earning
it back in an expanding way in years 2, 3 and 4.
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MELISSA
MILLER:
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And
why do you think you are creating more value doing this than buying
back
your stock at 80% of tangible book value?
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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Well
clearly buying stock back at 80% is you know a good thing if you
can do
it. We just think it is going to give us an opportunity in the long
run to
provide even better earnings. I think without getting into some larger
markets and expanding our product line base, our product base, it
is going
to be very difficult for us to expand revenue very much and I think
that
is what this does and we think it is a rationale thing to do.
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MELISSA
MILLER:
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Okay
thank you.
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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All
right, thanks Melissa!
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OPERATOR:
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Ladies
and gentlemen as a reminder if you would like to ask a question,
please
press “*” then “1”.
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Our
next question is from Yavonda Smalls of South Bend Tribune. Please
go
ahead.
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YAVONDA
SMALLS:
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Hi,
good morning everyone.
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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Hi
Yavonda!
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YAVONDA
SMALLS:
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Just
a couple of quick questions for you. You said this has been on the
works
for the past 6 months?
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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Yes,
we’ve had discussions on the possibilities for about that length of
time.
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YAVONDA
SMALLS:
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Gotcha
and how is this specifically going to affect clients? Would there
be any
immediate impact on them or…
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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Well
I will let Chuck answer that also but you know our intent is that
it won’t
have any impact at all and in fact our hope is that it expands the
opportunity for customers to do business with us. It is going
to give us a larger lending limit in all of our markets, not just
in the
Mishawaka-South Bend-Elkhart market but gives us some resources to
be able
to expand to even new services. Certainly the people who deal
with customers across both organizations are in place and will stay
in
place and the same people will be working with the clients in both
banks. Chuck, do you want to add anything there?
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CHARLES
J. VIATER:
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You
are right Dave and I think my only comment is that the only way it
will
impact clients is in a positive way in that the lending limits will
increase. We will continue to be able to provide the same level if
not
better level of service to those clients, both consumer and business
clients. I guess the other part of that from my perspective is that
the
lending limits being higher will allow us to serve more customers.
I think
as I mentioned earlier, the community banking philosophies that both
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organizations
have, we continue to stay committed to so the ability to make local
decisions on credit facilities on so on and so forth, we really expect
it
to be exactly what it is today, if not enhanced. So the impact on
clients
is going to be a very positive one.
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YAVONDA
SMALLS:
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Yeah
and will there be any affect on employment or is pretty much everything
going to… basically at the branches, are they physically going
to stay where they are?
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CHARLES
J. VIATER:
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Dave,
do you want me to take that?
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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Yeah
why don’t you go ahead.
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CHARLES
J. VIATER:
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The… Clearly
one of the advantages of this transaction is the fact that MutualFirst
is
going to be able to embark on efforts in markets they don’t already
participate in and we don’t have any real overlap so we expect that the 11
or 12 offices we have are just simply going to compliment the existing
offices of Mutual First and so that again is just another positive.
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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The
only comment in the area we have are branches that are between Elkhart
and
Goshen and Dunlap and the fact that we are looking to expand our
branches
in Elkhart County, I think will make up for any change there. The
cost
saves when you talk about employees, there is no question that cost
saves
relate to becoming more efficient and we would anticipate that as
we look
for the best way to deliver those products and services particularly
in
the back room that we will have an opportunity to gain efficiencies
and
the result of that are some people who get displaced a little bit
and if
we can’t find another place for them, that will happen.
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YAVONDA
SMALLS:
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Gotcha,
but it is possible that some people might be displaced then?
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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Yes
it is.
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YAVONDA
SMALLS:
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On
both sides or (Interrupted)
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YAVONDA
SMALLS:
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Okay
gotcha. Do you have an estimate on what number that might be or…
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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We
do not.
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YAVONDA
SMALLS:
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Okay
gotcha and I am sorry, one other quick question. I know like a lot
of
local banks seems to be merging into you know the larger regional
national
banks. How can the community aspect of banking remain so personal
and
become part of like a lower entity?
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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I
will take a stab at that and then Chuck I would like you to finish
that if
you would. You know I think that is one of the things that sets us apart.
A billion and half dollar bank is an awful nice size bank. It is
a mere
fraction of large money center banks that we find in all of our markets
to
some degree. So the advantage that we still have and Chuck mentioned
it
with local decisions being made. One of the things that MutualFirst
has
done Pat mentioned that this that we have expanded through merger
and
acquisition before. We have about a fourth, just a little less than
a
fourth of our current operation is in Kosciusko County which is just
south
of
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Elkhart
County and one of the things that we have enjoyed there is the fact
that
we make sure that the people who are in those regions outside of
“headquarters” have decision making authority. They have loan
authority. They have the ability to make exceptions in policy
and that is really important to community banking and that is the
difference. The difference in community banking and large
regional and national banks is that there are processes in place
to create
controls that really dehumanize the delivery of service and I think
that
is where we share the same philosophy. Would you agree Chuck?
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CHARLES
J. VIATER:
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Absolutely!
I don’t think you could have said it any better than that. The
distinction in this transaction versus the other ones that you typically
see is that very difference. The retention of the community
banking philosophy and practices where we can make decisions quickly,
locally, definitively and not have clients wondering what is really
happening in the black box that the big regionals create. So we
are creating something very different than that and frankly, we think
will
differentiate us in a very positive way in our markets.
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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Yavonda,
one of the challenges we all have as a community bank is establishing
enough resources to be able to compete with the big banks and so
scale is
important for us to be able to maintain the integrity of offering
products
and services to the clients that we already have. That is really
important
to us.
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YAVONDA
SMALLS:
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Yeah
gotcha. Okay thank you very much.
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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You
are welcome.
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OPERATOR:
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The
next question comes from Brian Martin of Howe Barnes. Please go ahead.
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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Hi
Brian, how are you doing?
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BRIAN
MARTIN:
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Good,
just listening to some of Chuck’s comments earlier about some of the
markets in Elkhart, their growth and profitability slowing over the
last
couple of years. I guess I am just curious and if you could
just give a little color in your home market, not maybe growing as
much. You know the expectations as far as growth going forward,
can you just talk a little bit about what your expectations are for
Elkhart as far as what type of growth you expect out of this market
given
… I am just trying to understand you know if they were not
getting the growth that is in that market you know how are you guys
going
to be able to accelerate that by doing this transaction and given
the
trends we’ve seen recently.
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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I
think that is a great question Brian and I think that all of our
markets
go through some phases. You know we all go through some rapid expansion
and then we go through some decline and you know I think the even
flow to
that is obvious. The current markets that MutualFirst operates in
you know
have been traditional manufacturing markets and you know we’ve had this
conversation before and I think you are pretty familiar with some
of the
challenges that we’ve faced there. I think one of the things
that is different in the larger market, even if that larger market
is not
as vibrant today as it was or will be, there are still opportunities
that
exist to change the balance sheet to you know restructure the type
of
loans or deposits
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that
we have on the books much faster. I think and Chuck I would like
you to
maybe expand on this to if you would. I think Elkhart County and
South
Bend have gone through some of the same challenges that everybody
else
does over time and if you recall for instance, in Elkhart County
the last
2 years since Katrina had extraordinary years in growth and in expansion.
That slowed down a little bit and we would expect that to increase
again
in the future. So I think size will help compete in some ways as
well as
just the ability to expand to bigger parts of the market within those
markets that we can’t reach today. Would you agree Chuck?
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CHARLES
J. VIATER:
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I
agree with Dave and I would add that we have had in terms of our
growth in
Elkhart County a reasonable amount of success there given our relatively
new position in that market. We haven’t been in that market all that
long. Our first foreray of what we call our Northern Branch
there, the positive base has grown to well over $20 Million dollars
in
that one location and so being a relative new player, we haven’t seen the
kind of growth but there is plenty of opportunity there and this
combination will just enhance our ability to take advantage of that.
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BRIAN
MARTIN:
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Okay
and as far as expectations of you know market share, is the focus
more
going to be in Elkhart or more to St. Joe market? I guess is there
a
greater push. Is it more in Elkhart? I guess that is kind of the
sense
that I am getting is that…
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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I
think we both identified Brian as Elkhart County is an opportunity
of
being a big market that we feel we can compete in. Our branch will
open at
this point; we are scheduled to open the 28
th
of this month so we have looked at MFB. We have other locations
identified to build some branches so I think clearly Elkhart County
is a
focus. I think there are pockets of St. Joe County that
obviously MFB has not been able to serve as well because of not having
a
location there. I think one of the Wild Cards we have here is our
opportunity as a combined company to expand our Hamilton County presence
where the Trust Office is down in Carmel. We have the ability
to be a boutique down there if we want to. We are not ready to
do that yet but I think looking forward from a strategy standpoint,
Hamilton County in Indiana is one of the fastest growing counties
in the
country. We have an opportunity that we think will drive some
growth.
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BRIAN
MARTIN:
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Okay
I appreciate it, thanks David!
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OPERATOR:
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We
have a follow-up question from Christopher McGratty of KBW. Please
go
ahead.
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CHRISTOPHER
McGRATTY:
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Thanks;
maybe you can just discuss how you are thinking about provisioning
going
forward. MFB obviously has been under providing or negative provisions
for
the last year or so. Given the current credit environment, maybe
you could
discuss how you think about provisions relative to charge offs?
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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Pat,
do you want to take a stab at that? Chuck, do you want to?
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PATRICK
C. BOTTS:
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I
can try it, sure! We are running at about 1% allowance and they are
running at about 130. We firmly believe that as we continue to increase
commercial lending that we need to keep those allowances probably
in
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that
neighborhood. I think we are going to be about 115 or 117 combined.
Our
projections call for us to provision amounts equivalent to projected
charge offs.
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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I
think that we’ve had a little different philosophy in how we reserve and
again I think that is an opportunity going forward for us to make
sure
that we are focused and consistent in how we are providing
provision. I think MFB and Chuck please jump in here, I think
MFB has been a very conservative company in terms of addressing reserves
and we think that is good. The negative provision that you have
seen is a result of some recoveries that have been made after some
significant reserves were taken. Is that right Chuck?
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CHARLES
J. VIATER:
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That
is exactly right! It is probably… Our methodology is probably a
little bit different than the one that MutualFirst has used and we’ve
talked about that a little bit and obviously we will pull together
and
come up with one methodology that make the most sense going
forward. But you are exactly right; it is not a matter of under
providing. I want to be clear about that. It is a
matter of us having taken the approach of being very conservative
in
establishing significant reserves for credits that are troubled and
then
having the experience of having significant success in recovering
those
reserves in the last… especially in the last year to year and a
half which are the numbers that Chris you are seeing.
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OPERATOR:
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At
this time, there are no more questions. Mr. Heeter, do you have some
comments?
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DAVID
W. HEETER:
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All
I would say is I thank you for your attention. This is the first
opportunity that we’ve had to do this and we appreciate your interest in
this transaction. I think we stand available to answer whatever
questions we can. I know that you all get an opportunity and
live in the bank analyst world and investment world and know that
there
are challenging times from time to time and we are convinced that
this
merger and this partnership is going to make a difference for both
of
us. We appreciate your attention and thanks for tuning in
today.
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