Fannie Mae (QB) (FNMAG) Quote

Uplisting - There should not be too many concerns about whether or not an uplisting to NYSE and any sales of the Government's interest would be successful regardless of the size of the amount. Because of the Government backing (whether it ends up implicit, explicit, a vague "maybe" or whatever) as this stock would be considered more closely analogous to a Government bond. If the companies become "utility-like" even more so. The world is awash in cash looking for a home. For example, I googled to find the amount of average daily Treasury sales and got the following:

"According to data from SIFMA, the average daily amount of US Treasury debt sold is around $879 billion. This figure represents the average trading volume in the Treasury market, which includes both primary dealer activity and secondary market transactions.."

So sales involving a couple of hundred billion dollars - and it won't be all at once - will be money coming out of the chump change jars of some hedge funds, sovereign wealth funds and/or companies like Berkshire Hathaway ($277B cash/treasuries and growing). We are talking less than 1/4 of one day's Treasury sales. Although large, you can't compare it to a normal stock offering.

And for those of you who insist that the Government won't cash in any of its interest whether seniors or warrants or both - regardless of whether they do or not - the demand for these shares will be overwhelming once they get on a real stock exchange.

Again, don't get wrapped around the axle because of a concern that it may "set the record". And definitely don't be concerned about investor demand because "they screwed the legacy stockholders over". They will buy because that screwing provides an opportunity for them.

Compared to the volume of daily transactions of Treasuries and other transactions of similar size across the globe - the size of the sales would be nothing to brag on - sort of like saying you own the biggest house in Hyattsville - like, so what!!

Nats

https://x.com/rcwhalen/status/1866827345224773970

math = big fat F. If it was joke then GSE commons humor = F too.

I believe your arithmetic is off. It’s 3 cents. Show me how you came to that valuation and I’ll let u know where u went wrong.

https://x.com/freefannie/status/1866667720642883727?s=46&t=xLP2LlWgJrEMUZZ7Fum-nA

"Also, I'm not so sure we were not some sort of pawns in the game for Cap Wealth's end goals"

Interesting comment!

Why are you here? You're a liberal embarrassment just like your candidate, didn't you embarrass yourself enough? I'll give you credit you have some gonads for even showing up here again but this is the Fannie Mae investment board not a liberal trash political board try to remember that... Biden will probably go down as the worst president in history instead of going after the right try to look inside your own party and find out what went wrong. But my guess is you'll still walk around with sheep clothes on

That could happen after up listing to the NYSE and Conservatorship release which would be a non event insofar as dilution is concerned. In the mean time, there's a moratorium on issuing new shares.

Perhaps. But there could be further dilution through JPS conversion or issuance of more common to raise capital.

Sure he means well... but until they stop postulating about using the warrants and double re-paying the sps... he's persona nongrata..

Back in 2013 Pagliara, along with Investors Unite, took a large group of us out to D.C to meet lawmakers ... a sort of citizens lobby. I have no way to measure the impact we made, but I don't think it was meaningful. Also, I'm not so sure we were not some sort of pawns in the game for Cap Wealth's end goals - again, no way for me to truly assess that possibility.

I do know that 4 or 5 of the small group I was associated with are either no longer in this, no longer allowed to post on this board (one received a lifetime ban from iHub - I'm not even sure how you go about earning that rather unique badge), or have just decided to go silent. The guy with the rather odd music (country?) videos was one - he was totally unlike the videos you see - although those came later, maybe fannie blew his mind out ... Bradford was there and If I'm not mistaken Rick was there as well. Anyone know if David Sims is still around?

In addition to running CapWealth, Tim has evolved into an activist investor, working on non-partisan projects with elected federal officials to fix America’s debt problem and promote a pro-growth agenda that has the potential to put the country and her citizens on a better fiscal and economic path. In 2014, he founded The Main Street Growth & Opportunity Coalition. The group is a national alliance of businesses, local trade organizations, and concerned citizens that support Tim’s pro-growth hopes for America.

Also, in 2014, Tim founded Investors Unite. The organization would become the inspiration behind his book, Another Big Lie, which tells the story of Tim’s tireless work representing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac shareholders. The group works closely with Washington insiders to seek a full restitution of dividends seized from investors by the Treasury Department.

An active philanthropist, Tim’s foundation, Pagliara Family Charities, helped start a school in Tanzania that now enrolls 4,300 students with a curriculum that prepares them for careers in math and science.

Tim earned his undergraduate degree at St. Louis University and a law degree from St. Louis University School of Law. He also graduated from the Wharton School Securities Industry Institute at the University of Pennsylvania and is a Tennessee Bar Association member.
https://timpagliara.com/about/

Yes good luck...  hope the GSEs play out and all make $$$

What a great November, got to see my brothers I flew with in Eastern Europe, we talked about FNMA. Some major influencers were hired and the future has never been better for our investments. How about you SiB? Good November? Hope your holidays are great again like Fannie and Freddie will be. 😎🇺🇸🤑

Down 1/2 penny! Where's the window? Shite, this is only a two story house. It'll never work.

That makes so much sense because the Gooberment wants $0.05 per warrant. Sarcasm intended.

https://x.com/ricknagra/status/1866632945362161941?s=46&t=xLP2LlWgJrEMUZZ7Fum-nA

I didn't notice until you asked, phewy!

https://x.com/ricknagra/status/1866631784978583746?s=46&t=xLP2LlWgJrEMUZZ7Fum-nA

Of course I do. For you, I recommend reading Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. Required philosophy reading by my Harvard Professor.

Your preaching to the Choir. Nadar only got us from a penny on the dollar to a nickel on the dollar but 500% is 500%. My point was, an FHFA director pick that advocated for writing down the Senior PREF and Warrants could yield 10, 20, 30 cents on the dollar overnight. Give me the guy that wrote the book, Tim Pagliara, and I say 50 cents on the dollar right now.

I would agree with you except for Bill Ackman. He is currently the biggest shareholder of FNMA & FMCC. Being a part of DOGE, I can't see him acting against his own self interest. On the other hand, he can educate Vivek and Elon on how they can make additional billions.

Do you even understand what this is saying? I think you need to read it again.

Do we stink?

Lets put a wrap on it. We will get after it tomorrow morning. Hit the showers boys and girls.

"Insider Ownership of FMCC - Some officers own nearly 300,000 shares"

Some of them own almost as much as some of the posters here! Whoop-de-doo.

by releasing fnma,l the govt will make 100 billion dollars on the IPo

I think you, and others, are missing the point. FHFA is not a taxpayer supported agency. There's a good chance it will fly right under radar and never be addressed by the Trump administration. I hope I'm wrong but technically speaking, you and I are funding this bureaucracy so the government doesn't care if we get screwed some more or not.

After 16 years, $5.50 is on par with a fart in an EF5 tornado! That's not even in the ballpark of fair evaluation.

https://x.com/GuidoPerei/status/1866614318676185252

The GSE's are the same color as your gober hunting finger

OMG! On page 601, Agenda 25 stands up for the rights of workers to organize 🫨

Injunctive Relief and Worker Organizing Activities. Within the confines
of the more reasonable definition of protected concerted activity described above,
the NLRB should increase its pursuit of reinstatement injunctions. Firing work?ers engaged in concerted activity has an immediate chilling effect on organizing,
but remedies under the NLRA typically come only much later and amount only
to backpay. In NLRA section 10( j), Congress empowered the NLRB to obtain
temporary injunctions that immediately reinstate workers to their jobs in these
circumstances. This provides a more meaningful remedy to the worker and creates
a significant deterrent to unfair labor practices, because prompt reinstatement will
tend to reinforce the legitimacy of the organizing effort. The NLRB overwhelmingly
prevails when pursuing an injunction, succeeding 100 percent of the time in 2020
and 91 percent of the time in 2021.

Except that Russell Vought is going to be head of OMB. Office of Management and Budget. The most powerful unknown agency. 

Who's he? Co-author of Project 2025. 


And Vought is also expected to work closely with Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy slashing agencies across the board.
Bye Bye FHFA. 


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/show/trump-names-project-2025-architect-russell-vought-to-key-white-house-role

Thanks for Yuma 😁
from Imgflip Meme Generator

Yep, they're all made up and meaningless.

EveryOne is so negative on the board
that it's scarin' buyers away

https://x.com/hagmansliver_/status/1866589014603800776?s=46&t=xLP2LlWgJrEMUZZ7Fum-nA

Seniors conversion + warrants exercise ensures a 5 cent valuation for commons.

Same o sh$t close different day

No one here will read they are content with being ignorant and the GOP loves them for it... A mass of fools.

Moron read the pdf that was posted after my comment.... Just goes to show Magats are fools and refuse to question what is tood to them and you're no different... 922 pages of made up talking point. 

Been long since around 2010, too long

new admin will fix this is the general consensus, especially with Paulson, Ackman, Musk, and the other guy-lol

I think, rather know form years of this coordinated price take down that we are being held below Yuma and will be until news real news comes

the evil banksters won't stop until the new sheriff is in charge(Thx M Fence for that one-lol)

so we have sometime soon after January 20th to get great news, hopefully fix is started and done 2025

I seriously doubt the new admin will play any cards before and allow the other side to torpedo anything

Go FnF

Big pump and dump today. EOD pps sunk like a huge rock

Imagine the legal Merry GO Round the day after Lamberth signed off creating a fiduciary duty for the FHFA to file suit against itself and the UST to recover the loss.

Sherwin strikes again end of day.

Trump doesn’t want Fannie suing the government 1/21/2025 or anytime thereafter

Lamberth is protecting the companies, that’s why there has not been a signature. He has come to the conclusion that the government should be paying the damages and not the companies.

That is why the delay.

Right On Guido. We should be hearing something about the Brydon Fisher suit soon and the Wazee suit. Probably both get dismissed but it will be interesting if they try CERT with SCOTUS. The DOJ should just settle all of these cases so we can move on. Waiting to hear from Lamberth!

This thing refuses to move up! It's over due 

Thanks FOFreddie. Until Collins ruling by SCOTUS, judges were regularly dismissing the law suits claiming that during conservatorship, only FHFA could file the suits as our rights have been transferred to FHFA. In the Collins ruling it was mentioned that every American citizen has the right to file a takings case against the government. That’s the date the statutes of limitations clock begins.

There are many exceptions to statutes of limitations in different states. Almost universally it includes minors, prisoners and wards who were in conservatorship and file suits against their conservator.