dinogreeves
7 hours ago
Ray Dalio arguably the best investor on the planet behind buffet was buying SMCI after the Hindenburg report and after the EY resignation, he bought 1.5 million shares between 42-46 dollars , if itโs good enough for Ray Dalio itโs good enough for me. Good night you all. Don't listen to me or the known baby puts or baby shorts that have an agenda, just don't buy and wait it out until extension is given, that is what I am waiting for too, to go big. Not much left until extension or OTC, time is on my side. One thing is clear, SMCI is innocent until proven guilty, for me personally would love to see Charlie step down after all the issues have subsided, if the numbers are not cooked, then Charlie will get his redemption. Above all, I would love to see stock buy back between now and before the audit report.
Bullish
Bountiful_Harvest
8 hours ago
Accounting Flames Threaten to Burn Down The AI Bubble
(Published by The Coastal Journal Nov 18, 2024)
In Backdraft, Robert De Niroโs fire investigator chillingly explains that fire is not just a chemical reaction but a living, breathing entity: โIt's a living thing. It breathes, it eats, and it hates. The only way to beat it is to think like it. To know that this flame will spread this way across the door and up across the ceiling, not because of the physics of flammable liquids, but because it wants to. Some guys on this job, the fire owns them, makes 'em fight it on it's level, but the only way to truly kill it is to love it a little.
This same approach applies to understanding financial statements and corporate accounting, where flames of fraud can smolder unseen before erupting into a full-blown disaster. Recent developments at Supermicro and AMD reveal a dangerous combination of smoke and fire, hinting that the AI chip marketโs towering house of cards may soon come burning down.
Supermicro: History of Leaving Investors with 3 degree Burns
Supermicroโs history is a catalog of financial fires. In 2018, the SEC charged the company with โwidespread accounting violations,โ accusing it of channel stuffing, premature revenue recognition, and altering shipment terms to artificially inflate revenue. The allegations culminated in Supermicro being delisted from Nasdaq for failing to file financial reports for two consecutive years. Though it clawed its way back to compliance in 2020, these fires have left investors with 3 degree burns that have now led lawsuits against the company.
Today, those embers are flaring up again. In late October 2024, Supermicroโs auditor, Ernst & Young (EY), abruptly resigned, citing governance failures and an inability to rely on the companyโs management. This sudden resignation sent a clear signal that the fire behind closed doors was no longer containable. Adding to the heat, Supermicro has failed to file its annual 10-K report back in June, an omission that leaves investors burned again to the companyโs financial reality. Without the rigor of third-party audits, its unaudited 10-Q filings are the equivalent of smoke alarms blaring without firefighters in sight.
The numbers are no less incendiary. Supermicro last reported a staggering 373% increase in net income, climbing to $402 million despite no new product announcements or transformative market shifts. Simultaneously, its inventory numbers do not add up, accounts receivable burned to -$500 million, and free cash flow fell to -$525 million. Negative figures of this magnitude in key financial metrics are not just anomaliesโthey are arson-level warning signs. These distortions suggest Supermicro might be fanning the flames of its growth narrative with aggressive accounting practices.
Then thereโs the matter of Ablecom, a supplier owned by the CEOโs brothers. Ablecom now accounts for 70% of Supermicroโs purchases, raising the risk of undisclosed related-party transactions and revenue manipulation. A $162.1 million surge in orders to Ablecom intensifies these concerns, highlighting how concentrated supplier relationships can mask deeper vulnerabilities. With Ablecom as the sole supplier of chassisโa critical server componentโany disruption in their operations could ignite a financial inferno, paralyzing Supermicroโs production and potentially incinerating its revenue streams.
To read the last 10Q where all this data was pulled from:
https://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/CIK-0001375365/b7acfa4a-553c-4eb6-ba1b-5d44ba332963.pdf
AMD: The Fire Spreads
As Supermicro struggles to contain its fires, the fire has now reached AMD, one of its primary suppliers and a cornerstone of the AI chip market. On November 18, 2024, AMDโs Chief Accounting Officer resigned (effective immediately), a move eerily timed with EYโs departure from Supermicro. When the same auditor that flagged governance failures at Super Micro also oversees AMD financials, as they get ready for their 10k filing next month.
Bountiful_Harvest
8 hours ago
The $SMCI board has been blitzkrieged with the "everything is awesome" hype all year. Some readers may be interested in another view, an indication that perhaps the $SMCI hype may be flawed. If one is so confident in their "everything is awesome" analysis, then let it play out. Mud-slinging only shows that one has no real substance to share.
Truth of the matter, Nasdaq doesn't have to wait til next month to make a decision. The last time $SMCI was delisted only took 24 hours to make a decision.
I understand there's a gang here that bought much higher prices and are now trapped, trying to pump and dump before delisting. Looking at the $SMCI chart reveals that bulls are trapped. No, the sticky will not be taken down because some don't like it. Any "unbiased" reader that reviews the stickied material understands how this will likely end. Those that don't have any substance to offer resort to attacking posts that do have substance. They lack confidence in their positions. There's an ignore feature available to all😎
The links below, also included in the stickied post are most revealing...
https://justdario.com/2024/11/smci-the-nuclear-nothing-burger-that-can-expose-nvidia-shenanigans-part-2/
https://justdario.com/2024/09/smci-the-nuclear-nothing-burger-that-can-expose-nvidia-shenanigans/
https://justdario.com/2024/08/hyperscalers-or-hypercheaters-adding-hindenburg-piece-to-the-big-ponzi-puzzle-we-have-been-putting-together-till-now-while-waiting-for-nvidia-earnings/
dinogreeves
8 hours ago
Now that is good DD, well worth reading and considering, for a trader, for me it is mid term hold and I am waiting this one out. But sincerely thank you for a great synopsis with the technicals. One thing I am hoping for Nasdaq extension before Christmas, so that tax loss selling doesn't come into play, so people can actually hold. The stock is currently in limbo without the extension, it will get a push after that, then we wait the reports, then hopefully DOJ will dismiss the fraud accusations, but we also have to be mindful of other catalyst, such as, major contracts that company can fulfill.
dinogreeves
9 hours ago
No, wrong, get your facts straight, furthermore, where is the proof on accounting fraud? Show me proof.
The shorters and media actually know what that form is , and its not what they portrayed it as. Its simply just a notice stating that at this time they have not recieved an extension.
This is already known information, yes theyve submitted a compliance report, no they havent granted the extension YET! And that is why they have issued that notice, also notice it is backdated to the 14th of November, that is because at that time there was no compliance plan yet, however now that theyve recieved it a follow up notice will come once they have decided wether or not to accept the request for extension. We should hear back from them within 4 weeks of the compliance plan being recieved.
At this stage we HAVE NOT been delisted contrary to some dodgy journos taking advantage of the little knowledge that retail posess to portray it as though the compliance plan was rejected, if that was the case we would ALREADY be delisted, instead at the moment the compliance plan is being reviewed
dinogreeves
9 hours ago
Baby puts and baby bears on IHUB make me chuckle, every time this moves 20-30% up North and gives back 3-8%, the baby bears start distorting the narrative with high fives, thinking IHUB makes this move, they have no clue what is about to hit them. Just give it 3-4 weeks, these prices will definitely not last. SMCI will run on the hips of NV*DA. Shock n awe coming after extension is granted and audit is done.
WebSlinger
13 hours ago
At first, you stated that the information was coming from PRs. When you were asked to back up that statement, you changed your story and are now saying that the info is from news releases.
Second, that is old news. As stated multiple times, Elon Musk stated many months ago that the plan was to split the server order between Super Micro and Dell. Super Micro delivered lots of servers with over 100,000 GPUs. Dell hasn't delivered anything yet.
Anyone can see the result of the Super Micro delivery here:
WebSlinger
14 hours ago
OK, I get it now, you are a shorter & distorter.
First, you lied. At first, you stated that the information was coming from PRs. When you were asked to back up that statement, you have now changed your story and are saying that the info is from news releases.
Second, that is old news. As stated multiple times, Elon Musk stated many months ago that the plan was to split the server order between Super Micro and Dell. Super Micro delivered lots of servers with over 100,000 GPUs. Dell hasn't delivered anything yet.
Anyone can see the result of the Super Micro delivery here:
dinogreeves
22 hours ago
Yes, that is what they do, I am going to watch and listen to NV*DA call today after market, if they say during conference call that they are shifting away from SMCI, then that will be the kiss of death. Never said it will be smooth ride, I said if they overcome all the speed bumps, Nasdaq extension, and BDO confirms that the books haven't been cooked, then yes you will that 200 dollars in 6-9 months. I never fret about 6-8% drop in one day, I will let it play out, the market believes that Trump economy is going to kill this irrational exuberance, but that is the thing, SMCI is already a beaten down, how much further dow n will it go, all depends on SMCI management.