boston745
55 minutes ago
Nope. No Robotaxis, no network of self driving Teslas making money for their owners, no robocharging network that come to you. He's failed in regards to Boring and his concept of transporting people in pods via hyperloop as well as his promises related to Solar City. Pretty much everything new, Musk has failed to deliver. What he has delivered was based on technology already established that Tesla may have improved some. Even his massive solar farm in the desert cant happen because it'll disrupt weather cycles.
Takeaway
Elon Musk is unquestionably one of the most influential and financially successful entrepreneurs and businessmen of all time. However, when it comes to business and technology achievements, history suggests his projections, promises and claims should be taken with a grain of salt.
https://money.usnews.com/investing/articles/elon-musk-track-record-overpromising-underdelivering
boston745
2 hours ago
Except Musk isnt going to be able to deliver what he said that will burn shorts. Thus shorts will win in the longrun with Tesla because its a fake it until it makes it scam.
In a previous post i claimed that "Tesla = fake it until you make it scam". In other posts ive claimed that Tesla is a bigger scam than what Theranos was. People will say it sells cars, its cant be a scam. Very true, the car part and the energy part of the company are not "fake it until you make it scams". What makes Tesla a fake it until you make it scam is the fact that Tesla would not have sold nearly as many of its cars and possibly even megapacks without the lies that have been perpetuated about Tesla to help pump it. Its valuation would be nowhere near what it is or peaked at and thus fewer investors could have purchased so many Teslas. Elon Musk would not be worth the over hundred billions hes worth, without the misleading claims, mostly by Mr Musk, about Teslas FSD software and what could be achieved by it in a rather short period of time. Reality is that true full self driving is decades away if ever achieved; i lean toward never because of natural phenomena that should make it impossible to safely achieve.
Its possible that Tesla produces a few robotaxis and tests them in cities like Cruise and Waymo do, but this would be just part of said fake it until it makes it scam as the underlying software is NOT safe for true full self driving. Thus, I'd expect Tesla to experience the same setbacks those companies have in the cities they operate in, struggle with expanding to other cities, or even continue to operate in the cities they are allowed to be in . In other-words, it will not achieve true self driving robotaxi network. At least its finally going to try and put the public at greater risk at the same time.
What constitutes a fake it until you make it scam?
it was arguably a referendum on “fake it till you make it” practices, such as intentionally overstating, and thereby misrepresenting, a fledgling company’s current capabilities, success, or profitability, while banking on the notion that its aspirations will eventually follow the desired trajectory and become a reality.
Is that not exactly what Elon Musk did when he made a series of promises 8 years ago that helped Tesla drive its valuation, sell more vehicles, and net him billions in gains via his enormous share count? This scheme was so successful that sales grew in part because a lot of people invested in TSLA, used their gains to buy 1 or more of Teslas vehicles; some of which then sold them for profit on the secondary market because of all the hype around Tesla coupled with shortage in supply. Without said fake it until you make it scam, Tesla and the greater EV market would likely be on its last breath; at least in the US and Europe.
Elon Musk’s Big Lie About Tesla Is Finally Exposed
Not long before the pandemic reared its ugly head, the brilliant, serial entrepreneur Elon Musk promised to roll out an Uber-like service enabled by self-driving Tesla vehicles. According to Musk, Tesla owners could expect to earn up to $30,000 per year in extra cash by lending their Teslas out to anyone in need of a ride. Owners and customers would transact on the “Tesla network.”
This self-driving technology already exists. At this point, the network can go live very soon, opening the world to an exciting new way to make money while you sleep.
Back in 2016, Elon Musk claimed that Tesla cars could “drive autonomously with greater safety than a person. Right now.” It was a lie, one that sent Tesla’s stock price soaring — and made Musk among the wealthiest people on the planet. That lie is now falling apart in the face of a new recall of 2 million Teslas. It’s also revealing to the broader public what close observers of Tesla have always known (and the company itself admits in the fine print of its legal agreements): Tesla’s so-called “self driving” technology works fine — as long as there’s a human behind the wheel, alert at all times.
Article fails to include that sales of Tesla vehicles would be nowhere near what Tesla has sold to date without these lies.
By this time Musk had MCed numerous stock price-spiking hype events around the technology, and had been collecting deposits from customers since late 2016 for a “Full Self-Driving” version of the technology. Despite the reported deaths and clear evidence that the only video of a driverless Tesla was heavily staged, even Musk admits that his hype around self-driving technology has been the central factor in the recent growth of his wealth to titanic proportions.
BYD thoughts of Self driving technology
“We think self-driving tech that’s fully separated from humans is very, very far away, and basically impossible,” Li Yunfei, a spokesperson for BYD, said in Mandarin, translated by CNBC.
“When we think about [self-driving tech] from all aspects, from human psychological safety needs, from ethics, from regulation, from technology — including application in this industry — we haven’t figured out [the logic] and we think it is probably a false proposition,” Li told reporters on the sidelines of the Shanghai auto show on Tuesday.
“There may be many industries and businesses that invest a lot of money on this [tech], and after investing for many years it will prove it leads nowhere,” he said.
Quote Sources:
https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2022/01/30/theranos-the-limits-of-the-fake-it-till-you-make-it-strategy/
https://incomecraze.medium.com/make-passive-income-with-teslas-robotaxi-network-80bfca249c56
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-commentary/elon-musk-tesla-crash-1234930544/
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/19/chinese-ev-giant-byd-self-driving-tech-better-for-factories-than-cars.html
boston745
4 hours ago
June's out of control Tesla list. Busy close to the month with several Teslas veering into oncoming traffic. This list is not comprehensive and only reflects the believed out fo control accidents that make the media mainly in the US.
June (18)
55. June 3rd (39.009890, -104.809555)
https://gazette.com/news/public-safety/tesla-crash-with-truck-leaves-1-with-life-threatening-injuries-juveniles-found-in-street/article_83a37528-2282-11ef-9fc1-db2a01d76d29.html
56. June 3rd (33.116224, -95.605942)
https://www.ksstradio.com/2024/06/sulphur-springs-police-release-details-on-recent-fatal-crash/
57. June 4th (40.168216, -83.086383)
https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/crime/2024/06/06/teen-killed-in-speed-related-powell-crash-driver-16-facing-charges/73995814007/
*58. June 4th (33.940331, -118.439780)
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/playa-del-rey-crash/3429336/
59. June 6th (23.719700, 120.475223)
https://taiwanenglishnews.com/tesla-breaks-in-half-catches-fire-after-plunging-off-freeway-bridge/
60. June 8th (56.147269, -3.215763)
https://news.stv.tv/north/man-dies-after-tesla-crashes-on-b922-in-fife
61. June 10th (39.307428, -76.475797)
https://www.cubaheadlines.com/articles/283383
62. June 13th (33.859205, -117.963651)
https://abc7.com/post/tesla-crashes-police-car-officer-investigates-separate-deadly/14944766/
https://www.instagram.com/p/C8K6T2zSjIt/
*63. June 14th (37.346664, -121.903836)
https://usaccidentlawyer.com/news/man-riding-scooter-hit-killed-car-highway-87-taylor-street-san-jose-ca/'
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64. June 20th (28.196024, -81.186405)
https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/telsa-flames-after-hitting-tree-osceola-county-crash-fhp
65. June 20th ()
https://www.carscoops.com/2024/06/new-cybertruck-owner-crashes-into-neighbors-house-after-unresponsive-steering-and-accelerator/
66. June 25th (33.85891360077363, -117.99854834191308)
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/wrong-way-tesla-driver-flips-into-oncoming-traffic-in-orange-county/
67. June 27th (44.017867, -70.617094)
https://wgan.com/news/074470-driver-killed-after-electric-vehicle-crash-creates-significant-hazards-in-naples/
68. June 29th (53.956329, -1.151213)
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/man-31-killed-crash-between-180634230.html
https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/24419970.recap-serious-crash-closes-b1224-wetherby-road-near-york/
69. June 29th (41.291239, -85.872278)
https://timesuniononline.com/news/2024/jun/30/milford-man-killed-in-2-vehicle-crash-multiple-others-injured/
70. June 29th (33.999160, -117.853277)
https://usaccidentlawyer.com/news/1-dead-2-injured-multi-car-accident-60-freeway-lemon-avenue-pomona-ca/
71. June 30th (38.675415, -75.221765)
https://www.wrde.com/news/indian-river-volunteer-fire-company-handles-head-on-collision-in-harbeson-sunday/article_9c71f330-37d7-11ef-8180-63ed69839339.html
72. June (?) (32.336364, -90.864496)
https://www.carscoops.com/2024/07/tesla-cybertruck-turns-turtle-revealing-chink-in-its-badass-armor/
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The computer errors from outer space
(Elon Musk: Model S not a car but a ‘sophisticated computer on wheels’)
When computers go wrong, we tend to assume it's just some software hiccup, a bit of bad programming. But ionising radiation, including rays of protons blasted towards us by the sun, can also be the cause. These incidents, called single-event upsets, are rare and it can be impossible to be sure that cosmic rays were involved in a specific malfunction because they leave no trace behind them.
And yet they have been singled out as the possible culprits behind numerous extraordinary cases of computer failure. From a vote-counting machine that added thousands of non-existent votes to a candidate's tally, to a commercial airliner that suddenly dropped hundreds of feet mid-flight, injuring dozens of passengers
Plus, since giant ejections from the sun can sometimes send huge waves of particles towards Earth, what's called space weather, an unnerving prospect looms: we could see much more disruption to computers than we're used to during a massive geomagnetic storm in the future
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20221011-how-space-weather-causes-computer-errors
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Tesla Drivers Have the Highest Crash Rate of Any Brand: Study
Tesla led all automakers with 23.54 crashes per 1,000 drivers in the past year.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/tesla-drivers-have-the-highest-crash-rate-of-any-brand-study
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Tesla suffers SUA and drives into a parking garage wall.
I'm begging all of you to NEVER get in a Tesla as long as you live. It started accelerating on its own in a parking garage and my dad lost all control of the car and we ran into a wall at 40 mph. Most horrifying experience of my life.
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-model-3-crash-inside-parking-garage-generates-dramatic-appeal-against-ev-maker-207530.html
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List of out of control Teslas for 2023 and link to 2022 out of control accidents as well.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173546837
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Link explaining how Electromagnetic Interference is causing EVs to experience sudden unintended acceleration
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/346368508_Special_Investigation_and_Countermeasure_Suggestions_on_Electric_Vehicle_out-of-control_Accidents
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Hutchison Effect & Teslas Whompy Wheel issue
Jain is one of tens of thousands of Tesla owners who have experienced premature failures of suspension or steering parts, according to a Reuters review of thousands of Tesla documents. The chronic failures, many in relatively new vehicles, date back at least seven years and stretch across Tesla’s model lineup and across the globe, from China to the United States to Europe, according to the records and interviews with more than 20 customers and nine former Tesla managers or service technicians.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-musk-steering-suspension/
The exact cause of the Hutchison Effect is unknown in public spheres as it is classified under national security. However the most likely culprit seems to be a combination of electromagnetic sources coming together in a way to change the makeup of metals leading to their rusting, softening, fracturing, complete breaking, even dustification. Keep in mind the degree of metal materials that are within our buildings and infrastructure...even in concrete. Maybe this is why we are seeing an increase in building and bridge collapses?
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=172987494
boston745
4 hours ago
Deserves reposting.
IF at all! Teslas will keep going out of control because of the earths weakening magnetic field. All EVs, all vehicles that are computers on wheels, are a danger to society! If this wasnt true then maybe Tesla would achieve level 5. But it is true and thus it likely never will. Some level 4 testing is likely the best Tesla will manage and if it does, it'll end up killing the industry because of how much publicity it attracts.
Presenting at the annual Living Planet Symposium in Prague last week, ESA researchers showed that the magnetic field has weakened by about 3.5 percent over the top of North America since 1999, but has strengthened by roughly 2 percent over Asia in that same time period.
The weakest part of the magnetic field, the South Atlantic Anomaly, which is over South America, moved steadily westward over the past seven years, and also weakened by 2 percent (and, yes, overall the whole thing is still weakening). On top of all that, the North Pole is wandering eastward towards the Asian continent pretty quickly.
You can see those changes in the animation below. Red shows a strong magnetic field, and blue shows a weak one:
https://www.sciencealert.com/new-study-shows-that-earth-s-magnetic-field-is-weakening-more-rapidly-than-we-thought
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The computer errors from outer space
(Elon Musk: Model S not a car but a ‘sophisticated computer on wheels’)
When computers go wrong, we tend to assume it's just some software hiccup, a bit of bad programming. But ionising radiation, including rays of protons blasted towards us by the sun, can also be the cause. These incidents, called single-event upsets, are rare and it can be impossible to be sure that cosmic rays were involved in a specific malfunction because they leave no trace behind them.
And yet they have been singled out as the possible culprits behind numerous extraordinary cases of computer failure. From a vote-counting machine that added thousands of non-existent votes to a candidate's tally, to a commercial airliner that suddenly dropped hundreds of feet mid-flight, injuring dozens of passengers
Plus, since giant ejections from the sun can sometimes send huge waves of particles towards Earth, what's called space weather, an unnerving prospect looms: we could see much more disruption to computers than we're used to during a massive geomagnetic storm in the future
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20221011-how-space-weather-causes-computer-errors
========================================
Tesla Drivers Have the Highest Crash Rate of Any Brand: Study
Tesla led all automakers with 23.54 crashes per 1,000 drivers in the past year.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/tesla-drivers-have-the-highest-crash-rate-of-any-brand-study
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Tesla suffers SUA and drives into a parking garage wall.
I'm begging all of you to NEVER get in a Tesla as long as you live. It started accelerating on its own in a parking garage and my dad lost all control of the car and we ran into a wall at 40 mph. Most horrifying experience of my life.
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-model-3-crash-inside-parking-garage-generates-dramatic-appeal-against-ev-maker-207530.html
=======================================
List of out of control Teslas for 2023 and link to 2022 out of control accidents as well.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173546837
=======================================
Link explaining how Electromagnetic Interference is causing EVs to experience sudden unintended acceleration
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/346368508_Special_Investigation_and_Countermeasure_Suggestions_on_Electric_Vehicle_out-of-control_Accidents
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Hutchison Effect & Teslas Whompy Wheel issue
Jain is one of tens of thousands of Tesla owners who have experienced premature failures of suspension or steering parts, according to a Reuters review of thousands of Tesla documents. The chronic failures, many in relatively new vehicles, date back at least seven years and stretch across Tesla’s model lineup and across the globe, from China to the United States to Europe, according to the records and interviews with more than 20 customers and nine former Tesla managers or service technicians.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-musk-steering-suspension/
The exact cause of the Hutchison Effect is unknown in public spheres as it is classified under national security. However the most likely culprit seems to be a combination of electromagnetic sources coming together in a way to change the makeup of metals leading to their rusting, softening, fracturing, complete breaking, even dustification. Keep in mind the degree of metal materials that are within our buildings and infrastructure...even in concrete. Maybe this is why we are seeing an increase in building and bridge collapses?
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=172987494
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