What we found, now that were in over 200 cities across the world, the local businesses really
understand their markets way better than we could as a technology provider. And so thats been a real winning combination for us over the last year.
MYLES UDLAND: You know, Travis, in the years before the pandemic, there was a lot of heat on what was happening with the scooter business and the bike
sharing business. And it seemed like that was where a lot of energy was focused. Certainly the pandemic kind of sent us other places. In a way, like, was that a positive to be able to try to run the business and hunker down and just kind of execute,
rather than have 15 stories every day about whats happening in the scooter space, as it seemed was the case in 2018 to 2019?
TRAVIS
VANDERZANDEN: Yeah, look, I think there was a lot of attention on the category initially because it was just, frankly, growing so fast. And people were really curious how it was going to fit in with the overall transportation puzzle. But
really, over the last few years, weve worked very closely with cities. We understand were one part of the overall transportation puzzle that a city is looking at. And we really have collaborated with them over the last couple of years to
really make sure microelectric vehicles like Bird can really fit in as a last mile solution.
You know, my mother was a public bus driver for 30 years.
And so, I grew up witnessing public transit and some of the pros and cons of first and last mile transportation. And Bird is really trying to complement public transit. And weve really worked with cities over the last few years to do that. And
as you mentioned, you know, youve seen some of the press really settle down as we really focused on working on the unit economics, if you will, the last couple of years and really collaborating with cities. And I think now youre seeing
Bird and other micro EV tech platforms really a part of the overall transportation ecosystem.
BRIAN SOZZI: And Travis, a lot of folks have purchased
cars during the pandemic, really, in a big way. Is that one of the reasons why youre not expecting profits, what, until 2023?
TRAVIS
VANDERZANDEN: Well, I think what youre seeing is people really mode shifted, you know, during COVID, unfortunately, out of public transit. And a lot of cities actually look to micromobility companies like Bird to try to provide
alternative solutions. Because no city wants people going back to gas cars. And certainly, Birds mission is to reduce carbon emissions and traffic in cities across the globe. And so, were very much aligned with cities on that.
And ultimately, you know, I think providing electric transportation options for everyone in a city is important so we dont go back to a world where
its all 3,000-pound gas cars moving around. And I dont think thats the future. I think the future is electrified transportation. And 60% of all trips in a city are actually five miles or
less. And so we think Bird is hitting on absolutely the biggest market within transportation.
MYLES UDLAND: You know, Travis, I remember in 2019,
going out to LA, scooters everywhere. Going down to DC, scooters everywhere. Of course, here in our home market in New York, weve now got, I guess, the Revel, like, the mopeds, basically. But we dont have any scooters quite just yet.
What are your plans in and around the Tri-State area? And how are you thinking about the footprint, I guess, in geographies where you have a lot more seasonality than kind of Southern California, where
scooters have really been most popular and have the largest foothold over the last couple of years?