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Fannie Mae (QB)

Fannie Mae (QB) (FNMAH)

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MRJ25 MRJ25 16 minutes ago
It is hard to be patient after all these years, but Pulte has to do his own due diligence.
So, he fixed the boards. Now a new stress test. He is on his way.
Hopefully he will not go for another period of comments. That has been done several times already.

Go FNF.
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MRJ25 MRJ25 16 minutes ago
It is hard to be patient after all these years, but Pulte has to do his own due diligence.
So, he fixed the boards. Now a new stress test. He is on his way.
Hopefully he will not go for another period of comments. That has been done several times already.

Go FNF.
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TightCoil TightCoil 22 minutes ago
Fannie Mae - All The Way - Freddie Mac - Load Up and Don't Look Back
Re: Lamberth 8-0 Jury Verdict - Estimates PPS for Award
https://groups.google.com/g/fannie-and-freddie-preferreds/c/pqn2eS34KGw

Re: PPS Projections (message near bottom of page)
https://groups.google.com/g/fannie-and-freddie-preferreds/c/lgBFkl-WqVA
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naveedkhan naveedkhan 26 minutes ago
Confucius has proclaimed!
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naveedkhan naveedkhan 27 minutes ago
Hopeful Investor likely to eat bird’s nest soup for many years!
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Jxx Jxx 30 minutes ago
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Jxx Jxx 32 minutes ago
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Dabeav Dabeav 42 minutes ago
But I still love the pumpers! Bring it
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Dabeav Dabeav 44 minutes ago
To hades I suppose.
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Dabeav Dabeav 45 minutes ago
Gap down in the morning, how far will it go.?
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Dabeav Dabeav 58 minutes ago
3Fiddy by Friday, maybe 2Fiddy..chipulteballis ain’t gonn help us !
Just like shampooch and calabria did nothing, all talk but never mention release! Trump don’t either.going down in the elevator until we hit the ground. Great song
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Boat Shoes From Yahoo Boat Shoes From Yahoo 1 hour ago
https://fanniemae.gcs-web.com/node/44646/html
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Dabeav Dabeav 1 hour ago
That’s what it means for sure, 360 turn around for the worse
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EternalPatience EternalPatience 1 hour ago
Yes correct. Agreed. Easily 1 year away
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north007 north007 2 hours ago
Gosh, sad that this thing went down today- Fannie always disappointing me.
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PennMilitia PennMilitia 2 hours ago
Musk ally Doge member to Fannie-Mae Board

That's really gonna rock that place.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/musk-ally-doge-member-stanley-013902235.html
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RickNagra RickNagra 2 hours ago
Makes perfect sense. That board member from SpaceX is probably one of those astronauts. After all we are headed to the moon.

One of the new board members is from SpaceX.
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RickNagra RickNagra 2 hours ago
Why does iHub put   in front of posts ? Oh never mind I just figured it out. It means $160 is on deck.

 $7 by Friday.
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kthomp19 kthomp19 2 hours ago
These have got to be the most interesting stocks that many of us have ever and will ever own. Each day is like watching some kind of soap opera. I just hope some of us don't have a heart attack or we may end up in General Hospital.

I went to the Safeway this evening and bought some popcorn so I can be ready for the circus tomorrow.

I had to do a triple-take when I saw the news about Pulte installing himself as CEO of both companies.

Technically it doesn't matter that much while FnF are in conservatorship because the FHFA director has always given the CEOs marching orders, but I guess Pulte wants a much more direct approach.

I hope you got industrial quantities of popcorn. I think you will need it.
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kthomp19 kthomp19 2 hours ago
Can it be Pulte looking out for governments interest - even if that clashes with the interest of common shareholders????

The Supreme Court already said that the FHFA director, as conservator, can ignore the interests of the companies (and shareholders) if it decides something is in the agency's best interest even if it means stripping FnF of all their net worth forever (the NWS). Hardly a good precedent for shareholders.

Other courts have also said that FHFA has no fiduciary duty to shareholders. Judge Sweeney's quote was the most stark:

That statement reflects a clear intent: the FHFA-C does not owe a fiduciary duty to shareholders because the conservator is not required to consider shareholders’ interests.

Note: FHFA-C means FHFA acting as a conservator, as opposed to regulator.
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kthomp19 kthomp19 2 hours ago
It's hard for me to get a read on how Treasury putting its FnF stake into a SWF would affect current shareholders, either common or preferred. There are many ways to structure it.

Putting shares into a SWF does seem to run counter to the idea of ending government control, though. Perhaps Treasury would just get whatever 80-95% common stake they would have gotten without a SWF and put those shares in, collecting dividends on them and setting up some abrogation of their voting rights (like with AIG) so that the companies can be quasi-private.

To me it's an unnecessarily complicated way for Treasury to monetize its equity stake.
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kthomp19 kthomp19 2 hours ago
In what world are juniors "cancelled" but existing commons have a value >$0.00? And please do explain what you mean by canceled?

I have already written this post, and this other one as a follow-up, regarding this same stupid argument (that the juniors can be wiped at all, let alone without the commons also going to zero). It's just schadenfreude-fueled wishful thinking.
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kthomp19 kthomp19 2 hours ago
Isn't this the who's who of who hate us?

Not really. Three of them are recent CEOs of FnF and the fourth has been bearish on recap/release but not a hater.

The haters are clowns like Parrott, Zandi, Carney, and Whalen. Especially Whalen.
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kthomp19 kthomp19 2 hours ago
The contract to protect trade secrets remains intact, as changing it was not part of the remedy. You promise to pay the $1M. You then go to China and sell the same secret to them, and then go to India to sell the same secret to them.

This isn't a good analogy for the NWS. The NWS gave away all shareholder economic rights permanently. A closer analogy would be if the "you" here had posted all of the company's trade secrets on the internet, making it impossible to ever sell again.

If the harm really was "removing all future sales & profits of that product by our company" then those trade secrets would be worthless to anyone past the first buyer.

So further breaching our contract is perfectly fine?

In the case of the NWS, further breaching of the implied covenant is not possible because the NWS reset reasonable shareholder expectations to "you get nothing forever". It literally cannot get worse than that.
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kthomp19 kthomp19 2 hours ago
the haters on this board will argue the FHFA is a separate entity from the Treasury

That is a factually correct statement.

So, Treasury did nothing wrong.

You need to be more specific here. The jury didn't find Treasury to have done anything wrong because Treasury was not a defendant.

Yet, both agencies’ head, FHFA Director and the Secretary of Treasury, are appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate, two government agencies in collusion committed fraudulent harm against the Shareholders.

"Collusion" and "fraudulent harm" are your words. The jury did NOT rule that either of those happened.
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kthomp19 kthomp19 2 hours ago
That's funny. So you provide an example that is close to your prediction and that's evidence of your point?

Wrong again. You misunderstood my point, which was that your claim that none of my predictions are likely to be exactly correct is meaningless.

I'm pretty sure if someone provided an example that was close to their scenario of LP being written down, you would NOT accept that as being more important than providing factual calculations, probability estimates based on what almost happened in 2019, or some quote in a book, filing a lawsuit, or something more than just directional.

Neither would I accept that from myself. I have provided ample reasoning and evidence to support my price targets. They are not at all just pulled from thin air.

If someone else can provide similarly rigorous and reasonable arguments for a LP writedown then I will give them serious thought. I have yet to see any, however.

Look, it's pretty clear that you don't understand why people hold this investment, particularly commons. Sometimes it's more than the money, it's the principle of things.

Oh I understand the principles-based "strategy". I just think it's a terrible way to try and make money. Betting on the government to "do the right thing" has been disastrously wrong so far with FnF.

This is exactly why one of the two lines in my Twitter bio is "Righteous indignation is a poor investment thesis."

And we're not talking about "people" here. Only you. I'm not on a high-horse here. I'm simply pointing out that your words (only wanting to make money compared to your cost basis) do not jive with your actions (continuing to hold shares even though you could lock in a gain by selling everything). Hypocrisy, plain as day.

Key word is discussion, not dictatorship.

I don't have the power to dictate things on this board. People, such as you, are free to demonstrate their hypocrisy at any time.
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kthomp19 kthomp19 2 hours ago
Well now that the jury verdict is entered as final judgement, we don't need to rely on the shareholder's opinion of the validity or legality, do we?

The "shareholders' opinion of validity or legality" never mattered with respect to the implied covenant.

It was Lamberth who ruled that the plaintiffs brought a reasonable claim that the NWS violated reasonable shareholder expectations (and thus the implied covenant), which is why the case proceeded to trial, and the jury that decided that the implied covenant really was violated.

It's now clear that the NWS violated the shareholder agreement.

It only violated the implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing. Lamberth dismissed all the other claims, including breach of contract.

Meaning if the contract gives away shareholder rights, the contract is in breach

Again, breach of contract is not at all the same thing as breach of the implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing. Stop conflating them.

The jury decided that the NWS, which removed all economic rights from FnF's shares, did breach the implied covenant. But the only thing they awarded was money. They didn't alter or nullify or invalidate a single letter of any contract or amendment. That means they found that the money damages were full compensation for the implied covenant breach.

Shareholders have a reasonable expectation that the shareholder agreement will not be violated in the future.

The NWS violated reasonable shareholder expectations about as much as is humanly possible to do, and the only thing shareholders got out of it was $812M plus post-judgement interest.

After the NWS was signed, reasonable shareholder expectations got reset to "shareholders get nothing ever". How is that even possible to violate?
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kthomp19 kthomp19 2 hours ago
It's complete nonsense.

What's nonsense is your total mischaracterizations and exaggerations of what I post.

Yet again, queen of technicalities.

Which means that your accusation of hypocrisy is unfounded. I've seen better admissions of being wrong, but I'll take this one.

Word choice aside, what were you implying in that statement?

That you have no grounds on which to criticize my share price model without posting your own. Stones and glass houses, as it were.

I do not NEED to do anything.

You do if you don't want to be seen as a hypocrite. Then again, you have demonstrated your hypocrisy on so many occasions that it clearly doesn't bother you.
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kthomp19 kthomp19 2 hours ago
Answered in this post.

Those numbers assume that the damages are pro rata to the par value of the preferred shares. I don't think that was specified in the verdict or final order though.

FMCC holders will get about 5 cents per share (plus post-judgment interest), and FNMA holders nothing because they weren't part of the class.
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Dabeav Dabeav 2 hours ago
Obviously not a fkn enough! I think they didn’t discontinue their beta blockers 24 hrs prior to any of the stress test. Lol
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Dabeav Dabeav 2 hours ago
I’m long , stuck. No matter the post , tweets , retweets , votes, confirmations, X post or who skn who’s cak! This shiitake is tanking and it will be worse tomorrow!
Post that shiitake on X and retweet to pulteless balls. To da fkn moon we ain’t going anytime soon.
3Fiddy by Friday!
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dcpi212 dcpi212 2 hours ago
One of the new board members is from SpaceX. 
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krab krab 2 hours ago
Pink slip for those who don't turn up for work. Didn't DJT already send noticed to thse lazy frogs.
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krab krab 2 hours ago
This more of the same bullshit !!!
Now, how many stress tests have been performed in the last 10 years by the FHFA and hired independent agency experts !!!
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krab krab 2 hours ago
This really means he's cleaning house to settledown. Sounds like release isn't going for another 6 - 9 months
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MannSinger MannSinger 3 hours ago
Cata-Pulte crooks from BoD, make space for investor's director

Pulte is on mission to remove crook democratic members from BoD of GSEs.
That creates space for new directors nominated by the investors.
It's Great News.3R is around the cornor after FSOC meeting on Thursday.
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Boat Shoes From Yahoo Boat Shoes From Yahoo 3 hours ago
My Man! Warrior!Hope so!
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Horseman Country Horseman Country 3 hours ago
Boat, I imagine he's weeding out some government stooges that were installed years ago. I think this is a good thing.
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Boat Shoes From Yahoo Boat Shoes From Yahoo 3 hours ago
Chairman of the board? Meaning it will remain in government control, in some ways? 
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fregata fregata 3 hours ago
u r loser and always will be loser , boys making big money from 0.40 -8$ and hopeful investor is FNMA /FMCC SUCKER
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RickNagra RickNagra 3 hours ago
 $7 by Friday.
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jcromeenes jcromeenes 3 hours ago
That is a cool find. The GSEs were passed their last stress test before being put in C while TBTF banks were failing and being allowed to go on their merry way. Now, with probably at least $100B more on hand than previously, my guess is we pass with flying colors and get a lower withholding more in line with 2.5%. That's the way I'd like to believe it plays out anyway.
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CCSAB CCSAB 3 hours ago
Old news
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CCSAB CCSAB 3 hours ago
I'm a fan of DJT policies, but having a government appointee annoint himself as COB of FnF is not a good look. For an administration supposedly looking to remove them from conservatorship (ie direct Federal Government control) it's a rather perverse move. Do we lack qualified, reliable, like-minded independent director candidates? This wreaks of government overreach and an intent to continue to effectively control these entities post supposed exit (via its expected majority control). If this were a straight exit with no sps conversion or warrant exercise, we wouldn't be witnessing this. Trump likes control and Trump likes holding the cards. Best of luck! So much for my $7.50 exit.
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navycmdr navycmdr 3 hours ago
Pulte makes sweeping changes to boards of GSEs

Bill Pulte, the new director of FHFA, removed several members of the governing boards of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and installed several new appointees

March 17, 2025, 7:09 pm By Chris Clow

Not wasting any time following his Senate confirmation last week, Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA) Director Bill Pulte made a series of major changes to the boards of government-sponsored enterprises Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac according to filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). The news was first reported by Inside Mortgage Finance.
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navycmdr navycmdr 3 hours ago
Pulte reposted the video 140,000 views so far

what HANDS ON Leadership looks like !

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PennMilitia PennMilitia 4 hours ago
What did Calabria ever do about this

That's the difference between the businessman Pulte and Calabria. If they are supposed to be remote workers then they should not even be renting that building.

Unbelievable
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Lite Lite 4 hours ago
Good find - thx
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RickNagra RickNagra 4 hours ago
Huge find.  FHFA orders new stress tests for Fannie and Freddie.  Are they planning to lower the ERCF ?
https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/fhfa-orders-stress-tests-for-fannie-and-9662991/
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2latefortears 2latefortears 4 hours ago
Some of them could be remote workers, but it sure sounds like a lot of wasted space to say the least.
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