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Freddie bagholder Freddie bagholder 5 minutes ago
Can you post the article here? Not sure why these people hate commons?
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jcromeenes jcromeenes 22 minutes ago
While I have read some things from them at times that seemed like reasonable information, it does seem fair to say they have never been our friend. Problem is, others read it and take it as gospel.
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Golfbum22 Golfbum22 35 minutes ago
Delay

Delay

Delay

Until all the shareholders go away

Updated plan
Ban all posting as much as possible and don’t allow thumbs up or any emoji’s
Don’t give any reason for it to the persons being blocked because this is the new Amerika and there is no more freedom of speech just paid for hire controlled media and now social media

1 post per day until all the mods go away

lol
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RickNagra RickNagra 47 minutes ago
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4704478-fannie-mae-preferreds-a-safer-choice-than-common
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stink stack stink stack 2 hours ago
Watch the RNC this evening. Maybe they will mention FNF.
;)
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EternalPatience EternalPatience 2 hours ago
We need some kind of hint or mention from someone from the top (of either Team Trump or Team Biden for the reminder of this term) for us to get the next level of spike. Otherwise we will drip back to 1.30s
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TommyBoyTrader9460 TommyBoyTrader9460 4 hours ago
$FNMA
$FNMA Continues to trade well above the 50 day MA.. a break through $1.70 and this should see a continuation..like it here.. pic.twitter.com/5PAq9JbSkN— Chris from Massachusetts AKA TommyboyTrader (@autumnsdad1) July 17, 2024
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RickNagra RickNagra 5 hours ago
Another hit piece out this morning on Seeking Crap.
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Wise Man Wise Man 7 hours ago
More evidence that the Supreme Court is the plotters' go-to court for their conspiracies.
Besides Justice Alito's out-of-the-box interpretation of the FHFA-C's Incidental Power, commented yesterday, that, once the spins are compared with the written text, what he was doing is endorsing the Separate Account plan, his opinion left other pearls:
▪️FIRST. "Dividend obligation": this financial concept doesn't exist in this world because it's never "mandatory", in an attempt to turn a dividend payment into interest payment (an expense in the Income Statement. Without restrictions) and with the objective to skip the Restriction on Capital Distributions in the law: A dividend is a distribution of Earnings (Changes in Equity: Funds taken from the Retained Earnings account).
There is either cumulative or non-cumulative dividend, precisely, for the moment it's unavailable for distribution, both because there weren't funds available for distribution with Accumulated Deficit Retained Earnings accounts all along and because it's restricted by law when FnF remain undercapitalized (IN GENERAL), which is what has happened.

One would wonder why this flawed concept was repeated by different actors in the Fanniegate scandal, to come to the conclusion that they were colluding to the same cause: the sacking of the enterprises.
- This is Justice Alito:


-This is a joint status report in the Lamberth court: FHFA represented by a Wall Street law firm and the Plaintiffs representing Wall Street:


-This is a deposition of the former Fannie Mae CEO given in 2020, but it was submitted to the Lamberth court for the trials as evidence.


-This is the origin of this flawed term: again, we have to come back to the 1989 bailout of the FHLBanks that is being used as template for Fanniegate (assessments sent to a "Separate Account to ensure payment of principal"), involving the FDIC (Sandra Thompson) and GAO (DeMarco), but, specifically, we will have a look at the press release announcing the end of the FHLB bailout in July 2011: "Completion of the REFCorp obligation", the FHFA solemnly announced, and people would think that the principal of the REFCorp bond was fully paid down, because a bond is also called "obligation" (the issuer is obliged to pay it back). But, later, we see that it was referring to the "fulfillment of an obligation to pay interests", which relates to the interest-only feature of the bond issued by REFCorp (Hence, "REFCorp bond"), where the FHLBs were Equity holders.
The REFCorp bond only paid interests.
The FHLB had to pay both interests and principal.
Therefore, the FHLBs had used their Separate Account for the fast payment of interests of the interest-only 40-year REFCorp bond and the $30B principal remained outstanding untile $SVB came along.
A rogue FHFA attempted to fool us all with the security "obligation" and the "interest-only" feature of the bond as an "obligation to pay interests", instead of what is stated in the law: the fast repayment of the 40-year principal of the bond, with assessments sent to a Separate Account reinvested in zero-coupon Treasuries, and where the Treasury Department was in charge by law of establishing a discount rate to assess the number of years left for the full repayment of principal.


This is why it has deviated to "dividend obligation" in the SPS, attempting to mimic the "interest-only" feature of the REFCorp bond that the FHFA called "RefCorp obligation", and turn it into "Dividend-only SPS", which doesn't exist in this world, just because they are annoyed that dividends are restricted in the law and the reality of a Separate Account plan to legalize the capital distributions that went through, despite the restriction, using the exceptions to the restriction, and one of the exceptions is, precisely, the repayment of these SPS (obligations in respect of Capital Stock).
The SPS are cumulative dividend SPS.
More evidence that Fanniegate is all about rogue people acting freely.

▪️SECOND. In the same screenshot, Justice Alito calls the Agreements "path of rehabilitation", when there is a law enacted exclusively to measure the financial condition of the enterprises, the FHEFSSA of 1992, enacted at the request of GAO in a report released one year earlier (image in the tweet below), and thus, the rehabilitation is measured with the capital metrics, capital definitions and capital classifications therein, not with a groundless determination by random people: "I think they are rehabbed", with currently a whopping adjusted $402B core capital shortfall over the Minimum Capital Level that GAO alluded to in its report, at the time DeMarco was a GAO employee. This is why DeMarco speaks FHEFSSA, and he enacted the July 20, 2011 CFR1237.12, for the continuation of the Separate Account plan: a rehabilitation for real.
Calabria's HERA struck the MANDATORY release from a Conservatorship for Critically Undercapitalized enterprises in the FHEFSSA (Core Capital > Minimum Capital Level, the threshold for the Capital Classification Undercapitalized-. Image in the tweet), precisely, to allow people to make up what a financial rehabilitation is.
https://x.com/CarlosVignote/status/1813107998639661156?t=CRMFhItwk234XUKrjwylWw&s=19

If "path of rehabilitation" with the dividend payments, is flawed, the same occurs with the ongoing SPS LP increased for free as compensation to the Treasury in the absence of dividend (NWS 2.0. The same Common Equity Sweep as before), because it's the same ill-conceived thing: the same capital distribution (both captured in the FHEFSSA definition of capital distribution number 1) and the same RESTRICTION. Restricted for a reason: for the path of rehabilitation for real.

▪️THIRD: Justice Alito was also egged on to repeat another slogan from the plotters: the ongoing NWS 2.0 was enacted in the "fourth amendment of the Purchase Agreement", repeated by the plotters throughout the social media.
This is false and the letter from the Solicitor General Perdogar that the justice pointed out in a footnote, simply alluded to "the prior amendments of the Purchase Agreements", which refers to the 4th (December 2017. Watt-Mnuchin), 5th (September 2019. Calabria-Mnuchin) and 6th (January 2021. Calabria-Mnuchin) amendments of the Purchase Agreement.
Why did the justice and all other plotters come up with 4th amendment? Because they are referring to the 4th amendment of the SPS Certificate of Designation, dated April 2021 with secretary Yellen in office, that simply reflected what was already included in the 4th, 5th and 6th PA amendments and no signature was necessary, as a way to get Yellen involved in the making of the Fanniegate scandal.
Justice Alito helped to spread the word "fourth" to make the plotters' case, who later have spread the word "fourth" for the NWS 2.0 a thousand times, and he was following orders, because no one else says "fourth" to talk about the NWS 2.0 that was brought to you solely by the Trump Administration.


▪️FOURTH AND FINAL POINT. We can read in the screenshot that justice Alito mentioned that the 3rd amendment in question "is no longer in place" and thus, no grounds for relief, when it's still in place in the form of SPS LP increased for free (another capital distribution restricted), challenged by the attorney Hamish Hume in the Court of Federal Claims before judge Sweeney with the Wazee I case that he voluntarily dismissed, and then, the attorney Thompson seized control of Wazee II in a district court, afraid of Hume in the scheduled July 1st amended complaint, because of this:
FnF start building their Net Worth, while also providing that 100% of that Net Worth would be owned solely by Treasury.
Justice Alito's stance resembles the attorney for Fairholme, David Thompson's, who was the attorney before the SCOTUS, that is using it to seek damages (back dividends for Berkowitz's Non-cumulative dividend JPS), contending that the ongoing compensation to the Treasury is wonderland, because the UST gets rich with the SPS LP increased for free in an amount equal to the Net Worth increase and, at the same time, FnF are being recapitalized through Retained Earnings, based on the Financial Statement fraud in FnF that are reluctant to post these gifted SPS LP and its corresponding offset with reduction of Retained Earnings account.
Therefore, zero Retained Earnings account built (C.C. and CET1) and the adjusted Core Capital remains stuck at $-194B every quarter.
This stance in the Collins case on remand from the SCOTUS, is what the attorney Thompson has stated in the scheduled July 1st amended complaint with Wazee II that he abruptly seized control of (plus other 4 cases), mentioned before.

Not only Justice Alito denied the existence of this new compensation to Treasury that is the same harm to the enterprises and thus, to the Equity holders as before, but also he mentioned earlier that it was "a path of rehabilitation", just like the hedge fund managers, like Bill Ackman: "FnF continue to build capital through retained earnings", which is the same stance as the Goldman Sachs alumni, Sandra Thompson at the FHFA.
Unaware all of them, that it renders their Retained Earnings account with an adjusted $-216B in FnF together, caused by the prior accumulated losses in early conservatorship, and the only account that absorbs the future "unexpected" losses (the expected losses are already covered by the Loan Loss Reserve -Allowance for Credit Losses-).
This account is captured in the Core Capital. Because the capital metrics is the way to evaluate the financial condition and risks, as pointed out in the GAO report of 1991, and thus, a gauge of the financial rehabilitation.

BOTTOM LINE
Justice Alito was talking about the rehabilitation of the Federal government.
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jcromeenes jcromeenes 10 hours ago
You truth is hard to hear at times but it is what it is.
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RickNagra RickNagra 11 hours ago
I’m watching the convention right now. Probably everyone is watching. It is quite good. No doubt whales are also watching and are impressed. Soon they will go to bed. But no worries I will sound the whale horn bright and early. I will wake them all up. Why you might ask ? The answer is very elementary. They need to hit the waters start swimming and head towards the New York stock exchange. They need to slap the ASK at the opening ding ding ding. And that is why folks we will be green again Wednesday. I am WhaleBalls.
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GVInvestments GVInvestments 11 hours ago
I agree with you. 100 Million is nothing for all the Billionaires. It's something that ackman and the rest of the billioniares can afford specially if they make hundreds of Billions from the release of F and F. 100 Million would make trump very happy, he would quickly release Fannie and Freddie. I hope cheap ass ackman has learned his lesson and stops being a cheap ass zio. Jessus christ - Ackman give trump his 100 Million.
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EternalPatience EternalPatience 11 hours ago
If Calabria is near the finalist list, short this pig like crazy. Even more than what corker and warner did last time

It will fall back to 20 cents
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stockanalyze stockanalyze 13 hours ago
catman is lying again. he is not only the architect of hera and hid the stress test but in 2019 said congress is needed to end conservatorship. why is he lying now that congress is not needed? he is a scumbag and if his name comes up, sell quickly and let the admin know of all what he has said, what he truly believes and done. forward this link.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-12/fannie-freddie-regulator-asks-congress-to-help-end-u-s-control

today, “Calabria also sees a chance..” meaning it will not happen with him.
https://www.housingwire.com/articles/mark-calabria-weighs-in-on-housing-under-a-potential-trump-administration/

remember he said before that they will likely exit c ship in 2024? the word ‘likely’ should have rung alarm bells just like ‘chance’ does today.
https://www.americanbanker.com/news/fannie-and-freddie-will-likely-exit-conservatorship-by-2024-calabria-says

by the way , noticed that vance’s wife worked for judge thapar. thapar was the only dissent in rop case. with timeline she worked for him, she wasn’t on rop case, so she likely knows nothing about it.

read judge thapar’s dissent, very interesting. on page 19
https://www.opn.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/22a0222p-06.pdf

not sure if the above association means anything, far fetched or leads to anything, may be nothing burger but it is a small world after all and who knows.don't jump on it please. at least vance if told, would feel how the 16 year bogus conservatorship with $2100 down to $0.40 has made so many poor with their 529 taken away (while $167 billion given away for education loan forgiveness), retirement taken away while we have 500,000 new millionaires created just last year, companies have hit multi trillion dollar valuations and we are succumbed to have multiple jobs to survive in this inflationary environment where even a small french fry costs $5.00. watch movie on vance, what he went through, not on a silver platter. if he has the ears of what went on with fannie mae and freddie mac, i think it may be very hopeful.
i have given up hope as lost all . i wish i had any cash to buy some and not sure even if i did, if i would buy some. fellow travelers may pull off another net worth sweep overnight and ambush just like they did in 2012. be careful.
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Viking61 Viking61 13 hours ago
Tight, I think that we’re ready to launch!! Go Fannie and Freddie🚀🚀🚀🚀
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KenKong KenKong 15 hours ago
Watch and learn
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TightCoil TightCoil 16 hours ago
FNMA & FMCC
Somethins' comin' - I don't know -
what it is - but it is
Gonna be Big
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jcromeenes jcromeenes 17 hours ago
Weeks? That's wishful thinking. He takes weeks for a simple bowel movement.
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GVInvestments GVInvestments 17 hours ago
Are you joking. Now days they dont have to divest from anything. trump and his Billioniare group do anything they want.
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jog49 jog49 17 hours ago
You might not EVER hear from Lamberth considering what you're dealing with . . . . . .
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Viking61 Viking61 17 hours ago
We probably won’t hear from Lamberth for a cpl of weeks. Status Quo!
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PennMilitia PennMilitia 18 hours ago
Any news from Lamberths worthless courtroom ?

What a train wreck waiting to happen.
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Viking61 Viking61 18 hours ago
I’m ok with $20,000 up days. If we could just get that every day it would be great!🚀
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JOoa0ky JOoa0ky 18 hours ago
Just buy some FNMAS, problem solved.
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RickNagra RickNagra 19 hours ago
Dow is on fire. We are frozen. Do something TightCoil.
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RickNagra RickNagra 19 hours ago
FNMAS new 52 week high and fast approaching $6 territory. What are we doing ? Putzing around ? Time has come to get the lead out and make some noise. I will now sound the new and improved whale horn.
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MRJ25 MRJ25 19 hours ago
Charts say: big upward move coming soon.
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blossom3 blossom3 21 hours ago
Ackman is definitely not a treasury material. I remember the last down turn in the market, he was crying on CNBC saying something like the world is going to hell to drive down the market (that was the capitulation in the market) and then he started buying. He is an opportunist.
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Guido2 Guido2 21 hours ago
Shouldn’t you first resolve why a “temporary “ conservatorship of two of the most profitable corporations in the world continues 15 years later? Looks like too many incompetent members in the @FinancialCmte & @FSCDems

If US isn’t a 🍌REPUBLIC…
FREE FANNIE!
FREE FREDDIE!— Guido da Costa Pereira (@GuidoPerei) July 16, 2024
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jog49 jog49 21 hours ago
Nobody is sure Ackman owns even one share. Pershing Square owns the shares for its clients. Of course, he could own shares but who knows? Anyway, he's probably not Treasury material. Otting had allegiance to Mnuchin; therefore probably can't be trusted.
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jcromeenes jcromeenes 21 hours ago
How about Bob Menendez? He's bribable!!!!! lol.
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JOoa0ky JOoa0ky 21 hours ago
Calhoun is a democratic pick.
Try again.
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jcromeenes jcromeenes 21 hours ago
It's the dreaded "They/Them!" lol.
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888888888 888888888 21 hours ago
Pelosi ?
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RickNagra RickNagra 22 hours ago
Someone is controlling the price at $1.53 very tightly. Like a TightCoil spring always springing back to $1.53.
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RickNagra RickNagra 22 hours ago
There is a high probability that Treasury Secretary would be John Paulson and FHFA director Michael Calhoun. This combination would also put us at $20.
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blossom3 blossom3 22 hours ago
Ackman will have to divest his FNMA/FMCC shares before starting the job. Would he then actually free them when he has no skin in the game?

I bet that Manuchin talked it up when he got the job to sell before he started the job.
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Viking61 Viking61 22 hours ago
My vote is Ackman as Treasurer and Otting as FHFA head! We would be at $20 a share on the announcement 🚀
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TightCoil TightCoil 22 hours ago
You still have time to load before launch time.
We should have a major pop by noon tomorrow
Don't risk it...Load up whilst the loadin' is good...
that is, before the buying frenzy stampeders
get here
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Guido2 Guido2 22 hours ago
This one?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-victory-could-ignite-massive-160015120.html
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TightCoil TightCoil 22 hours ago
Keep Fighting, Yes
Fight to make it Right
Fight to Right the Wrong done to shareholders
FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT
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Guido2 Guido2 23 hours ago
Thanks for sharing.

He repeatedly says post Dodd Frank. It's still the law. It was amended. Not repealed. He's gas lightning us into believing he didn't break the law by hiding the stress test results.
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jog49 jog49 23 hours ago
"Don’t you think Calabria was better than Thompson ?"

Interesting question. I'm going to say photo finish .. . too close to call. Both were worthless, but in different ways.
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Viking61 Viking61 23 hours ago
Hey Rick, you’re back to $1.55 !! You’re back to even on that last buy that you did!
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jog49 jog49 23 hours ago
"Thompson: She is nominated by Waters"

Really and truly, that's all the information anybody needs!
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jcromeenes jcromeenes 23 hours ago
You're giving Cat Man too much credit and selling Tattoo short. Tattoo at least told Mr Rork the plane was coming every week. Cat Man pee'd the litter box and left.
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jog49 jog49 23 hours ago
The Dow is once again above 40,000 and we're still out in the pasture wallowing in a cow patty!
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nagoya1 nagoya1 23 hours ago
Sorry Catman, you might have been the "man that started the GSE" being released but you came up shorter than Tattoo from Fantasy Island.

No more paper lions with visons of widgets and non-sensical stress tests. You proved that hardly working and hard work aren't the same thing.

GSE shareholders don't need your past dated paper road map, we need someone to do the actual work.

Enjoy your cat videos and emptying out the kitter litter.

FNMA
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jcromeenes jcromeenes 23 hours ago
I like your optimism. I once had that. I wish I could still muster it.
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HappyAlways HappyAlways 23 hours ago
Forget about Thompson. She doesn't think that FHFA, as a Conservator, has the responsibility to release the Conservatee. She is nominated by Waters with the only duty to support low-income family housing. Under their administration, housing crisis will happen again very soon. But, they don't care.
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