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Yasheng Group (PK)

Yasheng Group (PK) (HERB)

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MaterialMind MaterialMind 2 days ago
If so, hopefully some spills over to the shareholders... The problem with getting cash out of China still remains though.
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RealDutch RealDutch 2 days ago
I'm still hoping they will sette for cash, the previously owned 200,000 acres.
They will need it if they want to become a respected humanoid player.
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MaterialMind MaterialMind 2 days ago
Yes... And on top of that, 90%+ of the value is kept off balance sheet. ๐Ÿ’ฐ๏ธ
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Maxinvestor89 Maxinvestor89 2 days ago
The Audit confirms the 284m$ Equity

8m$ Net Profit

Even at 0.1$ the stock would still trade under 1m$ Float/Held at DTC

Even if we count the whole Market Cap with all Restricted shares, it is still currently trading under 1x NET INCOME!

There is no way the stock should be trading nowhere near where it is at right now.

There are indeed a couple typos here and there, though.
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RealDutch RealDutch 2 days ago
This is also notable.



They don't own 200,000 acres. This was before the asset swap in 2014. These assets were swapped out. But perhaps we will get them back?
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RealDutch RealDutch 2 days ago
This is the only crucial aspect of the whole report. Without it, I would have a problem. I don't have a problem buying the stock now....

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aandt aandt 2 days ago
Yes, disappointing that nothing is revealed in the filing. So I guess we keep waiting for whatever this "material event to be announced this year" is referring to.
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modes948 modes948 2 days ago
Very disappointing C-AR they have just filed.Absolutely nothing new.
A lot of copy paste keeping even the Covid-19 part in,and making a couple of mistakes along the way like the EPS for 2023.

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1123312/000121390025034242/formcar.pdf
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snow snow 6 days ago
Your piece of advice looks more convincing when i read about the possible opportunity to sell SIRI tokens before long RD.
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aandt aandt 1 week ago
Yeah in my opinion selling right now would not be a good idea, especially if someone has held on for a while, as most have. Audited report will be out in the next 2 weeks, and should provide some clarity on what the company is up to with the name change and who knows what else. IMO the name change could be a signal of a pretty big shift, which in turn could mean parent company activity, which could be quite good for shareholders (IF they can actually execute).

Total speculation on my part of course
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RealDutch RealDutch 1 week ago
Don't sell. lol.
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RealDutch RealDutch 2 weeks ago
Transfer Online, Inc.

https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/HERB/security
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Premium Stocks Premium Stocks 2 weeks ago
did they ever get a TA
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Premium Stocks Premium Stocks 2 weeks ago
who is the TA here ??
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snow snow 2 weeks ago
Some buying interest today
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Traderfan Traderfan 2 weeks ago
If you ever wonder about any of these deadlines, just ask.
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aandt aandt 3 weeks ago
The company just responded to me, I asked if they were going to file audited statements. They said they will be included in the C-AR filing which is due at the end of April.
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aandt aandt 3 weeks ago
Turns out they actually have until the end of April to file the annual report as a CF filer. Not used to this category.

https://www.raisepapers.com/form-c-ar
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RealDutch RealDutch 3 weeks ago
They basically admiited a year ago, that almost everything is off balance sheet.
Except the betel nuts in Hainan, and some of the herb stuff. And the mining.

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173921130
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aandt aandt 3 weeks ago
It's just on their website

https://yashenggroup.com/Introduction.htm

under recent filings in the middle of the page.
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RealDutch RealDutch 3 weeks ago
It's unaudited. I'm not sure what the purpose is of this document.
On which webpage did you find it?

I think we have to wait for the C-AR annual report, if we get it at all.
That should tell us about the off-balance sheet assets.
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aandt aandt 3 weeks ago
Annual Report is on the website - not filed anywhere yet that I can see.

https://yashenggroup.com/f-HERB-12-31-2024-2023-10K.pdf

Nothing really new, numbers consistent with how they usually are. EPS is .051, but no one really cares.

Includes this at the end-

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spartyJ spartyJ 4 weeks ago
If they could just get that pesky little 600M out of Hong Kong? Right around the corner eh Snow!
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aandt aandt 1 month ago
Yes, the past several years they have filed weeks before the deadline. This has me thinking/wondering that there might be some other factors involved. If it was just the standard filing then I would think it would have been released already. And we know they filed a name change with Colorado, so we already know they are up to something. The question is what?, and how will it impact shareholders?
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modes948 modes948 1 month ago
Thanks for the update.Good to hear because they used to file I think much earlier than the deadline and with their history it was worrying that they have yet to file.
Let's see also if there is anything encouraging in the filing and not just the usual stuff.
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aandt aandt 1 month ago
I wrote the to company last week and asked if they were intending to get their Annual Report filed on time?

Here is the response I got over the weekend -

we plan to file by the end of this month.

Sincerely

Huirong Zhang
Vice President
Yasheng Group

Hopefully the filing will include some insights into what is going on with the name change filing and what that means for the future direction of the company?
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spartyJ spartyJ 2 months ago
Thanks for that update Snow, I will ask again in another months and sure I will have the same response. Sounds a lot like that other scam SAIF doesnโ€™t it?
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snow snow 2 months ago
sparty RD has still not received his cash grant or the salary that he is owed.
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spartyJ spartyJ 2 months ago
How is this coming along Snow?
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aandt aandt 2 months ago
It's been awfully quiet here. Hopefully the company will find a way to actually accomplish something useful for once sometime this year. We should get an annual filing next month.

Maybe there will be some clues in there related to what is going on with the name change filing.
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snow snow 3 months ago
sparty Things look more hopeful now than for a long time. In the past the plan has been that Laxmi would go to Hong Kong to transfer money, but it has never happened until recently because circumstances did not make it possible for him to achieve his purpose. Now it has at long last happened. Why did he make that long and expensive trip if he did not have a good chance to achieve what was the purpose of the trip? According to what RD has posted on a different board the plan is to transfer money quite early in February.
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LVerstee LVerstee 3 months ago
The trillion dollar question.
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spartyJ spartyJ 4 months ago
How is "the plan" coming along? You have the lawyers locked in on speed dial?
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aandt aandt 4 months ago
Yeah I was thinking that, hopefully you will be able to start buying soon.

It does seem as though they are up to something. But we already know they move rather slowly.
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RealDutch RealDutch 4 months ago
Nah, only after I am done buying more shares
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aandt aandt 4 months ago
Hmm... interesting.

Could this be a sign of other corporate actions coming?
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RealDutch RealDutch 4 months ago
Humanoid Inc?

Hard to keep up with these guys

https://www.coloradosos.gov/biz/ViewImage.do?masterFileId=20211155660&fileId=20248336674
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RealDutch RealDutch 4 months ago
The ITUP board has no value anymore, except what I post from time to time ๐Ÿ˜€

Yes, there have been many delays and the company is struggling. But we are also making good progress. Long story, short, there is a 60% probability that I will start buying HERB in december, and 90% in January. We will get there.
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downthehatch downthehatch 4 months ago
Holding a chunk of this now.
I may wait and see whether you actually get paid.
From what I read on the ITUP board, there have been a string of promises to pay, with no actual payments made.
Correct me if I am wrong.
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RealDutch RealDutch 4 months ago
$0.08 available today. I suggest you take it.

I will be able to buy $200,000 worth of HERB stock every month, assuming things go as planned with the dividends we are expecting from MyCow companies. And I can probably increase that throughout the year. So we should be able to get to $0.50 after a couple of months. I may take it up to a dollar even. I can do whatever I want.
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LVerstee LVerstee 5 months ago
@snow ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ
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snow snow 5 months ago
Thanks for the information, RD!
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RealDutch RealDutch 5 months ago
According to the current schedule that the company provided, I will get paid some money on the 20th. Then some more on the 23rd, 30th, 7th of January etc.
I will not be giving you any exact dates when I receive the money but we should be up and running after Christmas. If they stick to the plan. We will get there.
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LVerstee LVerstee 5 months ago
@snow there you have it. Escape route taken hand and foot. Now you have given them another week minimum while CITI (if it were true) would have finished it today
Wednesday the latest falling in 24 to 48hrs timeframe.

Yes, Snow. And it takes only a day once I receive the money and then we will be in business
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RealDutch RealDutch 5 months ago
Yes, Snow. And it takes only a day once I receive the money and then we will be in business.
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LVerstee LVerstee 5 months ago
@snow please do NOT create additional escape routes for them. AML was supposedly passed so it should be Wednesday the latest. He claimed those 442 wires were scheduled. ๐Ÿค” Let's see what excuses come next.

Below from CITI site.

Citi typically opens accounts within 24 to 48 hours upon completion of the Know Your Customer process and delivery of the correctly completed account opening documentation package
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snow snow 5 months ago
RD I have the ompression that Laxmi was upbeat in his e-mail yesterday about the coming bank account with City-Bank since the hassle regarding anti.laundering measures now seems out of the way and activation of the account can be expected soon. But my impression is that it takes some days to pay more than 400 accuounts. Therefore it now looks most likely that you will recei ve the transfer of money not this week but next week.
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RealDutch RealDutch 5 months ago
We also have an intro page if you scroll down, that tells the story of the asset swap in 2015.
$2.3 billion of assets were swapped out in exchange for roughly the same in high value (cash generating) plantations.
Then they went dark.... the bastards.
Until a couple of years ago when they started filing again.
And now a lot of those assets are gone, as well as all the cash that should have been generated between 2015 and now.
We are talking like 70%+ profit margin on these assets, which is huge. Similar to Nvidia
We don't know what's going on. The company says they have to resolve things (with the Gansu government?).
In the filings they do state they have assets that are off-balance sheet.
They tried special dividends and spin-offs but FINRA didn't allow any of it.
Presumably because the company is keeping the value of the friggin assets hidden from us. So what do you expect...

Just another problematic Chinese company, like so many.
But there could be some very good value here.
If we add all the assets and cash generated then this could be a $20 or $30 stock.
So my belief is that they are keeping > 90% of all assets off-balance sheet.
But we don't know for sure.

The Gansu government can't just rip us off, can they?
That is the big question.
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aandt aandt 5 months ago
Since you are Chinese, you can probably do some of your own digging for more info.

What really matters here is the connection to the Gansu Provincial government. If you look at the filings, 83% of HERB is owned/controlled by Gansu Yasheng Salt Chemical Industrial Group. Salt Chemical is a subsidiary of Gansu Agricultural Reclamation Group, here is a Chinese article that details the history- https://www.csfmall.cn/brand/show.php?itemid=694. You can do your own research on Salt Chemical and the Gansu government connections.

The company has several things going on, the financials are good, profitable, etc. But there are assets and value currently off balance sheet after the 2015 asset swap that should eventually be resolved. That's what most here are really holding on for, and what RD is seeing as future value. They have tried a few different corporate exercises to distribute value and perhaps execute an exit, but they have not been able to get past FINRA roadblocks. It has been a long wait, but I still believe some form of resolution is coming.
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LVerstee LVerstee 5 months ago
It seems someone has finally had a realization.
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