Lehman Brothers Financial SA (CE) (LEHNQ) Quote

Its a nice interest rate.
If you have enough shares.

Git R Done as jimzin says

RE: Won't they have to buy them on the open market?
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Correct! And if the holders will sell it....   I WON'T ! 

I will try to live with my six percent interest every year.

"and there will be an interest party in buying all 48M LBH Capital TPS because they are imo, T1 capital -"

Won't they have to buy them on the open market?

Thank you, pay us this week, just kidding around team! Soon. Boy, where have you been? I have been worried about you. Did that storm wash away your sweet potatoes' moonshine making barrels, in North Carolina? Did the fire in California burn down the factory that produce your West Coast moonshine's labels? 😂

That's about the smartest dang post on here in a long time!  You sir have a keen eye and a master at connecting the dots...and this board is a better place because of your skill. 

Cheers!

The Silver Suppression and Systemic Risk
Silver continues to be a key industrial and monetary asset. The current gold-to-silver ratio stands at 88:1 - significantly above historical norms of 16:1 - prompting discussions around price alignment. With a four-year supply deficit and increasing industrial demand, market conditions are being closely monitored.

Russia’s recent announcement of state silver purchases adds another dimension to global silver demand. Meanwhile, paper silver markets operate with high leverage, where physical availability remains a factor in potential price movements. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2025-02-01/bill-holter-silvers-role-coming-market-reset

I understand your frustration. But JP Morgan Chase is about to become the most powerful bank there ever was - but there's a happy ending for us as well as Fannie and Freddie shareholders tied to that.

Excited for all those Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac securities they used for Repo 105 in LBIE and 3 different UK banks in London for $50B cash get revalued and especially onto the $NYSE with the end of the conservatorship and off the OTC so they have to appear on the LBHI consolidated balance sheet once more.

That'll add a bit of VALUE to the LBHI Plan Trust - right?

Time leads me to believe the CH 11 will end. We will get our cash distributions owed since 9 17 2008 in our brokerage account and there will be an interest party in buying all 48M LBH Capital TPS because they are imo, T1 capital - the property trustee account as Chase Manhattan Bank, NA has all of whatever type of money and assets since suspension due to the CH 11 still in those accounts - making these assets have value to anyone wanting to come in and acquire them for part of their investment bank expansion into the US. Deutsche Bank has been awfully active in the CH 11 litigation and also picking up ECAPS from subsidiaries in the UK Administration. They have as recently as this month stated they want to get IN to the United States investment banking business - and as recently as 2023 Barclays CIB was looking to exit. Who knows what will happen - but we know Donald J Trump will approve Deutsche Bank AG looking to get into the US market.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/3762336-lehman-brother-holdings-capital-trust-preferred-stocks-still-trading-after-all-these-years

Remember the media tried to make the Trump "Fraud" trial he won in the Appellate Court vs Letitia James look like he also had a bad history borrowing form Deutsche Bank and he was somehow at odds with them. Deutsche Bank came to the trial to testify Trump was a "model borrower" and always paid his loans on time. They said the loans were performing. Deutsche Bank is definitely going to get their approval to be in the US investment bank game and Trump has a very FAVORABLE relationship with them. Just as Deutsche Bank AG sent in an amicus brief in the most recent Court of Appeals and made a case that common sense would have been totally in favor of LBIE v AGFP and overturned the ruling of the lower courts - they have been honest about everything. That leads me to believe that Trump and SCOTUS will not let the ruling ruin the entire ISDA Master Agreement and the ability to honor the payments as agreed to in the entry over both parties into these contracts.

https://www.businessinsider.com/except-for-fraud-donald-trump-was-good-deutsche-bank-borrower-2023-10

Full speed ahead. We will not have to fight in court for justice. Donald J Trump and SCOTUS aren't letting these corrupt politicized NY Courts get away with this and ruin private contracts tied to $677 trillion in derivatives markets as Ron has said many times.

I believe he’s stepping down before April, cause wasn’t March the date for normal inauguration’s??? Let’s get paid before then :)

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Who is the real owner of BlackRock?

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Blackstone was founded by Peter Peterson and Stephen A. Schwarzman in 1985.
👉️The two had previously worked together at Lehman Brothers and Kuhn, Loeb Inc. 👈️
They started the firm with $400,000 of their own money.

🦍🐀🦍 Go Lehman Brothers:

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New MOR is out, estate spent $1.4M. Beginning free cash $26.2M ---> ending free cash +$.7M to end of the month at $26.9M

https://document.epiq11.com/document/getdocumentbycode?docId=4433232&projectCode=LBH&source=DM

Did you see the print ...its 2 percent.
From Bing

If that were true
The Money would have been in the Account by now. Yup the Keystone Cops on the Job. As we can see.

ALL LAWYERS Goberment look like this in the US.
IMO
CLOWNS EVERYWHERE

DID YOU SEE THE GREASE IN THE WHEELS??
LOOKS GREEN LIKE GREENSPAN

IM DONE WITH YOU s4

Cheers :)

RE: And what is the premium? 
In the context of swaps agreements

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OHMY! I call this an obsession now.  "FINE TUNE IT"

Are you High Got your JJ



Wanna Bet??? HAHAHH
You want a Deal Deal Of a Life Time ??
Gee 200 to 1 On a Swap. Sounds GGOOODD!!!
PAY UP JPM HAHAHAH Got'em

WE could out right fail again
So some consolation

RE: Of couse its fraudulent ..


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YOU WILL BE FAMOUS AS A WHISLE BLOWER. YOULL EXPOSE THE LARGEST FRAUD IN HISTORY.


😝 😆 😂 

BING

And what is the premium?
In the context of swaps agreements, the term "premium" isn't typically used. Instead, we talk about notional principal, fixed rates, floating rates, or spread.

The notional principal is the amount upon which the exchanged interest payments are based, but it's not actually exchanged between the parties.

Would you like more details on any specific type of swap or another aspect of swaps agreements?

OK 3 percent loan 100 million due in 5 years. With a reurn of Ten times
Let's break this down to see what you're looking at:

Loan Amount: $100 million

Interest Rate: 3% per annum

Duration: 5 years

Return of Ten Times: Assuming you mean you want to calculate a return that's ten times the investment.

First, let's calculate the interest on the loan:

Interest per year: $100 million * 3% = $3 million

Total Interest over 5 years: $3 million * 5 = $15 million

At the end of 5 years, you would owe the principal plus the interest:

Total Repayment Amount: $100 million + $15 million = $115 million

For a tenfold return on your initial $100 million investment:

Desired Return: $100 million * 10 = $1 billion

If you need to achieve a tenfold return, you would be looking to generate $1 billion from your investment over 5 years. Achieving this would likely involve high-return investments, business ventures, or other financial instruments well beyond the simple interest on a loan.

Would you like to explore different investment options or any other financial scenarios? 😊

remember this a swap agreement at 100 million A paper.
Got it! We're dealing with a swap agreement involving a $100 million A-rated (investment grade) paper. Let's assume this is an Interest Rate Swap with the following details:

Notional Principal: $100 million

Fixed Rate: 3%

Term: 5 years

If we're looking at a swap with a fixed-rate loan and the goal of achieving a tenfold return over 5 years, here’s a hypothetical scenario:

Fixed Payments: You're paying a fixed 3% interest rate on the $100 million notional principal.

Annual Payment: $100 million * 3% = $3 million

Total Payment over 5 years: $3 million * 5 = $15 million

Floating Rate Side: If you’re receiving returns from the swap, those returns would come from the variable interest rate or performance of an underlying asset.

To achieve a tenfold return, the floating side must generate returns significant enough to surpass the fixed payments. Here's an illustration:

Total Desired Return: $100 million * 10 = $1 billion

Total Fixed Payments: $15 million

Net Return Needed: $1 billion - $15 million = $985 million

This implies that the floating rate leg or the underlying asset in the swap needs to perform extraordinarily well to achieve this kind of return.

Would you like more details on how such high returns might be achieved, or do you have other specific aspects of swaps you'd like to explore? 😊

and what is my premium
In the context of a swap agreement, we don't typically use the term "premium" as we might with insurance or certain types of options. Instead, the key terms are usually the fixed rate, floating rate, and notional principal.

For your swap agreement:

Fixed Rate: 3%

Notional Principal: $100 million

Term: 5 years

The "premium" in swaps can be thought of as the difference between what you pay and what you receive. In an interest rate swap:

You Pay: 3% annually on the notional principal ($3 million per year)

You Receive: Returns based on the floating rate or the performance of an underlying asset

In your case, if your goal is a tenfold return, the floating leg of your swap needs to generate significantly higher returns over the fixed payments.

If you have more specifics or need details on a different type of swap, feel free to let me know! 😊

Thats what I'm asking .. The bank charges a premium for a potential return of 10 times my investment. what is the premium chraged for this protection
Got it! When you're discussing a swap agreement with a bank and the potential for a significant return (like ten times your investment), the premium you're referring to can be considered the cost of the protection or the additional cost over the standard terms.

In such high-stakes scenarios, the premium might be calculated based on several factors:

Risk Assessment: The higher the perceived risk of achieving those returns, the higher the premium.

Market Conditions: Current interest rates, economic stability, and market volatility can influence the premium.

Credit Rating: Your creditworthiness or the quality of the underlying asset can impact the premium.

In a typical setup, the bank might charge an upfront fee or an additional percentage on top of the fixed rate to account for the extra risk they're taking on.

Let's assume the bank charges an additional 2% as a premium for this protection:

Premium Amount: $100 million * 2% = $2 million

So, along with the fixed rate payments, you might pay this premium as part of the agreement to secure the potential high return.

These specifics can vary significantly based on the terms of the swap and the bank’s policies. It's always a good idea to have detailed discussions with the financial institution to understand all costs and terms involved.

If you have any other questions or need further details, feel free to ask! 😊
FWIW So 5 percent interest to cover 10X for protection.

RE:  2 Trillion on our swaps bets cause thats what they were. 
Bets of Ten times what your covered..

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OMG!! YOU ARE STILL OUT OF TUNE!!! HA HA 😂 😆 

I agree with you that you POR isn't closed . But you seem to imply that we're or may be bought out. At exit.
Which I disagree. We should have sued for the 2 Trillion on our swaps bets cause thats what they were.
Bets of Ten times what your covered for. To just accept 17 Billion for such a massive world wide Company
.. Well that s truely sad.
So yah the Balance sheet is WRONG Two trillion short. wrong. IMO
But Hey it was the wild west. Gee or was it a Contract. AS in contract law.??

Of couse its fraudulent ..
He's approx what the Lawyers said
"Prior to the 2008 financial crisis, the over-the-counter (OTC) derivatives market, including swaps, was largely unregulated. This lack of regulation contributed significantly to the crisis. Here's what happened regarding failures to pay and the consequences (or lack thereof) before 2008:  

1. Lack of Transparency:

The OTC derivatives market was opaque. There was no central reporting or clearing of transactions. This made it difficult to assess the overall size and risk exposure of the market. Regulators had limited visibility into who was exposed to what.
2. Bilateral Agreements and Counterparty Risk:

Swaps were primarily traded through bilateral agreements between two parties. This meant that each party was exposed to the credit risk of the other party (counterparty risk). If one party failed to meet its obligations, the other party could suffer significant losses.  
3. Limited Regulation:

There was limited regulatory oversight of the OTC derivatives market. This meant that there were few rules regarding capital requirements, risk management, or reporting.  
4. Consequences of Failure to Pay:

If a party failed to pay on a swap contract, the counterparty would typically try to recover its losses through legal means, such as lawsuits.
However, due to the lack of transparency and standardization in the market, it could be difficult and time-consuming to resolve disputes.
In some cases, failures to pay could lead to cascading defaults, where the failure of one party triggers failures by other parties who were exposed to them. This is precisely what happened with AIG and its credit default swaps, which played a key role in the 2008 crisis.
5. Contributing Factors to the 2008 Crisis:

The lack of regulation and transparency in the OTC derivatives market amplified the risks associated with complex financial instruments like credit default swaps (CDS).  
Many financial institutions were highly leveraged and had significant exposure to counterparty risk.  
When the housing bubble burst and defaults on mortgages increased, it triggered a cascade of losses in the derivatives market, leading to the financial crisis.
In summary:

Before 2008, the OTC derivatives market was a "Wild West" with limited regulation and oversight. Failures to pay were a significant risk, and the lack of transparency and standardization made it difficult to manage these risks.

This ultimately contributed to the severity of the 2008 financial crisis. The Dodd-Frank Act, passed in the wake of the crisis, aimed to address these issues by increasing regulation and transparency in the derivatives market.  

So Could lehman sue for Trillions?...Yes But it decides not to. Seem their retarded by their Lawyers(Paid OFF) LIike Madoff.. On purpose. IMO
I Just Keep Laughing. See you in Vages... NOT HAHAHAH

RE: The Dirivatives market is just for show .

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YOU ARE ALWAYS OUT OF TUNE. POR IS STILL IN EFFECT UNDER THE ADMINISTRATOR.
THERE IS NO LEHMAN AS LONG AS POR IS OPEN UNDER THE ADMINISTRATOR.


YOU AND COTTON ARE THE SAME OUT OF TUNE.


 POR SAYS DISTRIBUTE ALL ASSET UNTIL SATISFIED IN FULL..


ARE THEY SATISFIED YET ??

Sorry C. Ron is right. That arguement is closed. The High court ruled the appeal. And said "No" to the refiling of the appeal in London.

Just more Fakery. Not by you. The Banks who offered The swapps CDO's as protection . The retuns should have been protection enough the very moment they Economy started to tank. But as we all Know... Those contracts and the Banks held nothing in reserve to cover all the insurance. By my estimate 100's percent. They never had the intension to make good on their insurance provisos They figured that moment would never arrive. "The Payout" They just wanted the premiums to keep rollin.

Hey the lawyers knew and Know... The Dirivatives market is just for show . The Banks picked the Winners ... They made their choice ... The chose to pay themselves They also knew the y could ignore it all And laugh. Like Me. HAHAHAHAH. They took down the economy .Laugh at that .. and the Currancy as well.
Morons ... No more dirivatives market OOhhh Well Bo hoooo.. HAHAHAHAH HEHEHEHEH Just like we planned.
Wait to see whats next.;!!!

RE: CTS are in the Same Camp as Preferred Shares.
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WRONG!WRONG!WRONG!


THE EQUITY PREFERRED IS SELF EXPLANATORY.


IT IS AN INVESTMENT VEHICLE FOR EQUITY SHARES.


WHILE TRUPS IS  A 'DEBT' INVESTMENT VEHICLE THRU THE TRUST. (ALSO SELF EXPLANATORY)


UNDERSTAND AND COMPREHEND WHAT YOU ARE READING.

RE: CTS are in the Same Camp as Preferred Shares.


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WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!

THE PREFERRED EQUITY SHARES IS SELF EXPPANATORY.. 


ITS AN INVESTMENT VEHICLE OF "EQUITY" 


WHILE CTS ARE "DEBT" INVESTMENT VEHICLE


LEARN AND COMPREHEND WHAT YOU ARE READING,

🐎🐎🐎 Waiting Waiting Waiting...

Thank for Supporting My Argument.

JPM didn’t have the money to cover Lehman’s ‘Market to Market’ of $17 Billion on September 14th.

Need more?

“BlackRock?”
Why…


All Classes are in the Money.



Ron

CTS are in the Same Camp as Preferred Shares.

Securitized by Derivative Contracts.

You didn’t understand the Derivative Market Meltdown of 2008.

Lehman’s wasn’t the problem.
JPM was.



Ron

IF YOU THINK THE BALANCE SHEET IS WRONG, BE A WHISLE BLOWER
YOULL BECOME VERY FAMOUS

We are waiting on a SCOTUS ruling on AGFP/LBIE friends of the Courts ruling. From a NYU Professor and Deutsch Bank.

Go back and study the text in the Series P prospectus that I posted.

You make me laugh 😂.

Good luck Buddy.

You Don’t Understand the Derivative Market.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175708037

Please try again.

‘AGFP/LBIE motions’ isn’t settled.

Yet!



Ron

Read it again, we are talking about Series P preferred stock that we own, along with BlackRock. Man, did you see the link? Your head is locked on AGFP/LBIE motions. You have been posting the same thing for six months. We are following BlackRock now.

It was risky for LBHI to offer $4 Billion in P shares in April 2008. Our P shares are probably covered by Derivatives. Remember the Sunday, September 14 Derivatives trading sessions based on LBHI filing Bankruptcy on September 15, 2008? 😂

Keep Going. That Has Nothing with The Insurance Policies.

Your post;
Secondary market upon secondary market.

Perpetual and insured.

No loss to the investor.
SWAP/CMO…
Insured.

~2.2X minimum from Performance Payments.

Proven as stated.

Very few people understand the Derivative Market Meltdown of 2008.

JPM failed.
JPM didn’t have the money to cover their ‘market to market’ nightly loan to Lehman’s.

Always go back to the original fundamentals.



Ron

P Series Derivatives' Settlement:

. If so, the third party may use securities pledged by us or borrowed from us or others to settle those sales or to close out any related open borrowings of stock, and may use securities received from us👉️ in settlement of those derivatives 👈️to close out any related open borrowings of securities.


https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806085/000104746908004053/a2184062z424b2.htm

Or bed pan. And the Med start to really flow!

Dirivatives looks like are pointless. Unenforcable contract. But doesn't mean they can't be sued.

What ?? Did they get their get their distributions.?

Some say the Nickles that were thrown were just tokens. I suspect others having different interest will are going to give DJT issues.
May not make the End of 2025 IMO In a word "Greed"

Hey!! I want my money worth...
What the Volume ?
What the Price??
HEHEHEH

HAHAH Plus interest... HEHEH

Gurl


HEHE

Wow soo little .. From your wishes to Gods Ears. May it come to be. TY

Why Vienna ...why not here in the US.

Derivatives by Definition are Naked.

No backing assets to cover the insurance contract written.
It’s a Legally Binding Contract!

JPM needs to settle all outstanding litigation issues and pay up.

Currently;
$677 Trillion in Derivative Notables and ‘no one knows it.’

$83 Trillion back in 2008.



Ron

Here.. This place we're taking about it. Thats how you know it exist. This is ... as the Great one says is in "Name only" Lehman Bros Hld.
in Bankruptcy. Nobody knows if it will re emerge reorganized and out of BK intact.
One foot out the door , one foot in the door. The Rubicon. Precipous.

Your wrong The Sec is part of the problem. Naked shorting is always happening in US markets.
And it is against the law to do so. ANd all Goberment agents are doing NADA, zero zillch. Goose egg.
So go torch the soap box. Lenin.