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Sun Pacific Holding Corporation (PK)

Sun Pacific Holding Corporation (PK) (SNPW)

1.42
0.00
(0.00%)
Closed December 26 4:00PM

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Key stats and details

Current Price
1.42
Bid
1.43
Ask
1.82
Volume
155
0.00 Day's Range 0.00
1.31 52 Week Range 34.00
Market Cap
Previous Close
1.42
Open
-
Last Trade
1
@
1.47
Last Trade Time
Financial Volume
-
VWAP
-
Average Volume (3m)
1,489
Shares Outstanding
941,012,019
Dividend Yield
-
PE Ratio
-2,840.00
Earnings Per Share (EPS)
-0
Revenue
46k
Net Profit
-509k

About Sun Pacific Holding Corporation (PK)

Sun Pacific Holding Corp (Sun Pacific) is a green energy company specializing in solar and waste to energy technologies. With a focus on deploying its subject matter expertise and experience in green energy solutions, Sun Pacific is building a Company that designs, develops, builds, and manages adva... Sun Pacific Holding Corp (Sun Pacific) is a green energy company specializing in solar and waste to energy technologies. With a focus on deploying its subject matter expertise and experience in green energy solutions, Sun Pacific is building a Company that designs, develops, builds, and manages advanced green technologies that support renewable energy solutions. Sun Pacific operates several subsidiaries including Sun Pacific Power Corp, Street Smart Outdoor Corp, National Mechanical Corp, . The company is headquartered out of Manalapan, NJ. For more information, visit www.sunpacificholding.com. Show more

Sector
Lighting Equipment, Nec
Industry
Lighting Equipment, Nec
Headquarters
Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
Founded
-
Sun Pacific Holding Corporation (PK) is listed in the Lighting Equipment sector of the OTCMarkets with ticker SNPW. The last closing price for Sun Pacific (PK) was $1.42. Over the last year, Sun Pacific (PK) shares have traded in a share price range of $ 1.31 to $ 34.00.

Sun Pacific (PK) currently has 941,012,019 shares outstanding. The market capitalization of Sun Pacific (PK) is $1.34 billion. Sun Pacific (PK) has a price to earnings ratio (PE ratio) of -2840.00.

SNPW Latest News

Subsidiary's Solar Announcement Sent Shares Flying!

A New Jersey-based micro cap turned heads Tuesday morning after the company announced that its wholly owned subsidiary and PT. IDN SOLAR TECH. (“IST”) have an To read the full story on...

PeriodChangeChange %OpenHighLowAvg. Daily VolVWAP
1-0.39-21.5469613261.811.811.429381.555648CS
4-0.58-2922.351.3118451.59989121CS
12-0.33-18.85714285711.752.351.3114891.67272518CS
26-1.08-43.22.52.771.3112611.67462623CS
52-6.98-83.09523809528.4341.3112676858.82911838CS
156-47.38-97.090163934448.8981.31191830734.83055357CS
260-7.58-84.2222222222913961.317833001146.97315579CS

SNPW - Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

What is the current Sun Pacific (PK) share price?
The current share price of Sun Pacific (PK) is $ 1.42
How many Sun Pacific (PK) shares are in issue?
Sun Pacific (PK) has 941,012,019 shares in issue
What is the market cap of Sun Pacific (PK)?
The market capitalisation of Sun Pacific (PK) is USD 1.34B
What is the 1 year trading range for Sun Pacific (PK) share price?
Sun Pacific (PK) has traded in the range of $ 1.31 to $ 34.00 during the past year
What is the PE ratio of Sun Pacific (PK)?
The price to earnings ratio of Sun Pacific (PK) is -2.84k
What is the reporting currency for Sun Pacific (PK)?
Sun Pacific (PK) reports financial results in USD
What is the latest annual turnover for Sun Pacific (PK)?
The latest annual turnover of Sun Pacific (PK) is USD 46k
What is the latest annual profit for Sun Pacific (PK)?
The latest annual profit of Sun Pacific (PK) is USD -509k
What is the registered address of Sun Pacific (PK)?
The registered address for Sun Pacific (PK) is 8275 SOUTH EASTERN AVENUE, SUITE 200, LAS VEGAS, NEVADA, 89123
What is the Sun Pacific (PK) website address?
The website address for Sun Pacific (PK) is www.sunpacificholding.com
Which industry sector does Sun Pacific (PK) operate in?
Sun Pacific (PK) operates in the LIGHTING EQUIPMENT, NEC sector

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SNPW Discussion

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wallstreet1231 wallstreet1231 23 hours ago
Merry Christmas and a Happy Holiday Season To you as well. Here is to a new year filled with great hope. Best to all.
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drugmanrx drugmanrx 1 day ago
Merry Christmas and a Happy Holiday Season to all.

May 2025 be better then 2024 for SNPW

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karmakaziXpert karmakaziXpert 2 weeks ago
Big news coming soon?
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rickstereo3333 rickstereo3333 2 weeks ago
I know exactly why its down and clearly stated such, but,....chronic illiteracy is clearly an impediment..................


Quote: The subsequent PPS decrease had ZERO to do with the RS but rather was a function of the Market, ie there was no demand for SNPW shares.
As I had stated prior to the RS, IF the RS was coupled with major Pr's from SNPW re construction of its SP/Battery plant etc your silly point would be moot.


Reading and Comprehension 27 --- Wall Street Liar/Fraud 0

ZERO shares yet felt compelled to respond to a month old post @ 0355hrs!?!?!?!......such dedication innit!!! lololsss


#wallstreetjames
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wallstreet1231 wallstreet1231 2 weeks ago
Such bullshit, but very laughable. Oh my Little Ricki.
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wallstreet1231 wallstreet1231 2 weeks ago
Your post reverse split share value has decreased by over 50% and you remain clueless as to why. Carry on Captain clueless.


The subsequent PPS decrease had ZERO to do with the RS but rather was a function of the Market, ie there was no demand for SNPW shares.
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rickstereo3333 rickstereo3333 2 weeks ago
STOCK MARKET 101:

When SNPWs RS occurred the OS decreased by factor of 4k and likewise the PPS increased by a factor of 4k with the AS remaining constant @ 1B.

The subsequent PPS decrease had ZERO to do with the RS but rather was a function of the Market, ie there was no demand for SNPW shares.

As I had stated prior to the RS, IF the RS was coupled with major Pr's from SNPW re construction of its SP/Battery plant etc your silly point would be moot.

Again, the excess ~1B shares are irrelevant until they are issued because if they were relevant, the PPS would have been sub penny by now.

Only a complete novice would make such an inane statement so once again you've been exposed.

The fact that this idiocy is so openly displayed is truly heeelarious to me! lololololololololololololololsssssssssssssss


#wallstreetames
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wallstreet1231 wallstreet1231 3 weeks ago
Poor fella doesnโ€™t even realize he has already been diluted. Roughly one billion new shares were created in the recent reverse split. Stock is down over 50% since the reverse split.

Now he will tell you there isnโ€™t any dilution since the company hasnโ€™t issued/used any of the new shares created from the reverse. All is fine - right? Maybe he should look at his significantly decreased account value since the reverse. Oh, and those current shareholders holding the 250 thousand shares knowing there is 999.75 million new shares that could be issued at the discretion of the company. Sleep tight Little Ricki.


All irrelevant until dilution actually occurs,
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rickstereo3333 rickstereo3333 3 weeks ago
Once again a clear demonstration of ZERO Market knowledge with the expected amateur analysis in tow.

All irrelevant until dilution actually occurs, but in the event it does, the -ve effects could be lessened IF the available shares are utilized for purchasing assets and/or merger activities.

Such a silly comment indeed! lololsss


#FakeChineseTechExpert
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wallstreet1231 wallstreet1231 3 weeks ago
It would seem more plausible to believe the programs are dead if there is nothing to update in 6-12 months plus. If so, just state they are dead or shelved. If not, update where the projects stand. Agree.

Many penny stocks go into long periods of silence and do a lot of business building behind the scenes and emerge far far stronger then before they entered the quiet time. Show zero signs of this with snpw.

Curious if you follow the same philosophy the same way of all the penny stocks you follow. (if you follow pennies? The history of optimism followed by failures or the fading away of potential optimism puts snpw in a different classification for me.

Two simple principles I discovered over the decades

1) Failures does not guarantee it is a scam, sometimes it is just failure do to lack of funding, real world events effects or incompetence.

2) Long silence does mean certain death

Rehashing old material over and over again and asking questions on a message site is not going to create answers to those questions,

I learned the best place to get REAL ANSWERS to your questions is contacting the source, yet you refuse to?. Itโ€™s bad practice to call a company requesting non public information. Itโ€™s incumbent upon the company to provide transparency to preclude such calls.
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drugmanrx drugmanrx 3 weeks ago
It would seem more plausible to believe the programs are dead if there is nothing to update in 6-12 months plus. If so, just state they are dead or shelved. If not, update where the projects stand.

Many penny stocks go into long periods of silence and do a lot of business building behind the scenes and emerge far far stronger then before they entered the quiet time.

Curious if you follow the same philosophy the same way of all the penny stocks you follow. (if you follow pennies?

Two simple principles I discovered over the decades

1) Failures does not guarantee it is a scam, sometimes it is just failure do to lack of funding, real world events effects or incompetence.

2) Long silence does mean certain death

Rehashing old material over and over again and asking questions on a message site is not going to create answers to those questions,

I learned the best place to get REAL ANSWERS to your questions is contacting the source, yet you refuse to?.
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wallstreet1231 wallstreet1231 3 weeks ago
I disagree with your below statement. I think there are significant topics to talk about, or have snpw update their shareholders.

Topics such as:

Snpw tweeted last September they were working on their filings. Itโ€™s been 3 months since this tweet, whatโ€™s the status of these filings? Noting that filings are due every 3 months it would seem reasonable for an update.

Earlier this year snpw tweeted a site visit for a facility. Whatโ€™s the current status of identifying a facility?

What is the status of financing?

Is there a connection between Solray and snpw?

Foxess products seem to be doing well in a number of regions, why not the United States. Is snpw actively promoting Foxess? If so, how? If not, why not?

I could add more but I think the above outlines why I believe there are things to talk about, be updated on.

Some have previously stated that there is nothing to update, nothing new on the above topics so there is nothing to update. I donโ€™t buy this excuse based reasoning. It would seem more plausible to believe the programs are dead if there is nothing to update in 6-12 months plus. If so, just state they are dead or shelved. If not, update where the projects stand.

My opinions.

With nothing out of the company, there really isn' t anything current about SNPW to talk about here.
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drugmanrx drugmanrx 3 weeks ago
I can help but go back to how this all started for me here, Medrecycler-RI.

Yes in end up the project was denied,

but in other for the West Warwick Town and Planning boards to give its approval at the local selected, to move forward one would think it was reviewed by a Civil Engineer and given their approval for the project and the location.

West Warwick Town Board, West Warwick Planning board, Civil Engineer and RI-DEM all approved the project, FoXEss remains on the SPPC website, and Sun Group expanded it relationship with SPPC, yet some call this a scam.

With nothing out of the company, there really isn' t anything current about SNPW to talk about here.

So carry on.
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wallstreet1231 wallstreet1231 3 weeks ago
Wow, look at all those available shares to use as snpw may deem beneficial. Would bring a whole new meaning to potential dilution - roughly 250 thousand outstanding and a potential 999.75million to use going forward.

I do question the market potential/value, assuming there is a market, for the whopping 999.75 million shares.

My opinions.
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rickstereo3333 rickstereo3333 3 weeks ago
Definitely the oddest shares selling ""SCAM"" I've ever seen.....SS from Nov 2023 - Dec 2024

SNPW SECURITY DETAILS

Authorized Shares - 1,000,000,000 12/02/2024
Outstanding Shares - 261,751 12/02/2024
Restricted - 10,798 12/02/2024
Unrestricted - 250,953 12/02/2024
Held at DTC - 250,903 12/02/2024


#muppetscammers
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wallstreet1231 wallstreet1231 3 weeks ago
And yet snpw tweeted they were working on filings dating back to September - roughly 3 months ago. They do realize filings are due every quarter - correct. How about they get the darn filings filed.

Did they ever secure financing? Did they ever secure a facility? Where are they going to manufacture these so called solutions?


Solutions for a Sustainable Future
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drugmanrx drugmanrx 3 weeks ago
There is life.

Hey,all check out SNPW X header has finally changed their" world conglomerate" to something more realistic.

Sun Pacific Holding Corp
@SunPacificPower
Sun Pacific Holding (SNPW)

Solutions for a Sustainable Future


Great volume today as well 0.8% of the stock traded to day 3192 shares.
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rickstereo3333 rickstereo3333 3 weeks ago
Yes I saw when that 4600 @ $2 popped up.

No worries IF/WHEN real news hits the Market IMO
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Mountdallas Mountdallas 3 weeks ago
After that lil pump an ask wall equivalent of 18+m pre-rs shares popped up sheesh. Also noticed snpw changed it's background image and bio on twitter.
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Dspetry Dspetry 3 weeks ago
A ton of people sold short, when this spiked to the .30's

The crooked market has allowed them to remain short all of these years, IMO.

THAT'S their agenda.
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drugmanrx drugmanrx 4 weeks ago
Happy Thanksgiving all.

I only got into SNPW because of JAMES personal guarantee.

JamesLH

Re: None

Thursday, May 17, 2018 10:59:37 AM
Post# of 82716
Buying it up at these prices!! Now that EXOL share holders have sold this stock will be $1.00+ by summer's end, guaranteed.
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Peeteman Peeteman 4 weeks ago
Just helping you out. Another post for you, another few dollars in the old pocket.
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rickstereo3333 rickstereo3333 4 weeks ago
Either that or they're on a vendetta against Nick, and by extension SNPW and any associated entities.

My bet$ however are on your option......too many characters involved (if aliases are real) for it to simply be personal.
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Huggy Bear Huggy Bear 4 weeks ago
Wow, clairvoyant too. Enjoy your stock scams now.
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Peeteman Peeteman 4 weeks ago
Me thinks youโ€™re paid to protest. Thatโ€™s your agenda.
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Huggy Bear Huggy Bear 4 weeks ago
I told you yesterday sheesh.

I detest con artists. This is a stock fraud.

Deal with it.
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Peeteman Peeteman 4 weeks ago
Enjoying continuing to call this a scam. You are here for a reason, what is your agenda?
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Huggy Bear Huggy Bear 4 weeks ago
Ok. Well, enjoy your scam.
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Peeteman Peeteman 1 month ago
Long term investor less than 5%. I know this isnโ€™t your agenda!
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Huggy Bear Huggy Bear 1 month ago
Ok, so what's your agenda?
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Peeteman Peeteman 1 month ago
Like I said, everyone here has their agenda, you included.
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Huggy Bear Huggy Bear 1 month ago
Personally, I detest con artists. You?
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Huggy Bear Huggy Bear 1 month ago
Please do. Do you need an extra shovel?
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Peeteman Peeteman 1 month ago
Everyone posting here is posting here for a reason. Some have a more nefarious agenda than others.
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wallstreet1231 wallstreet1231 1 month ago
Come on - get real. Do you also believe in the tooth fairy.

the price of $SNPW was lifted by an algorithm.
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wallstreet1231 wallstreet1231 1 month ago
If you were a true investor, which you arenโ€™t, you would be focusing on snpw itself - not third parties. Youโ€™ll learn.


All Wall Street frauds and "lawyer" Impersonators need to be exposed and that's exactly what I intend to keep doing.
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rickstereo3333 rickstereo3333 1 month ago
Every post is absolutely about SNPW since they expose the stock scammers trying to smear the company at every turn.

Once again I am forced to educate you on reading and comprehension, which is becoming very tiresome indeed.

All Wall Street frauds and "lawyer" Impersonators need to be exposed and that's exactly what I intend to keep doing.

Do enjoy............................


#muppets
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karmakaziXpert karmakaziXpert 1 month ago
Thanks!
But, I went with the SRNRG brand. And using my new solar microwave (comes with SolRay mini solar panel) to make my pumpkin-almond pie.

ingredients:
S - sweet & low
R - roast almonds
N - naan bread
R - ricotta cheese
G - ginger

Happy early Thanksgiving!

Back to my bowflex.
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drugmanrx drugmanrx 1 month ago
SNPW: Sugarfree Nutritious Pie Wow

Can I use a sweetener instead of sugar? Maple syrup

Ingredients

1 9-inch pie crust * See notes
15 ounces pumpkin puree
1 1/4 cups unsweetened almond milk or any milk of choice
3/4 cup maple syrup
1 teaspoon pumpkin pie spice or cinnamon
1 tablespoon cornflour or cornstarch

Instructions

Preheat the oven to 180C/350F. Prepare your pie crust and set aside

Place the pumpkin puree, almond milk, maple syrup, pumpkin pie spice, and cornflour in a saucepan and stir well, ensuring the cornflour has dissolved completely. Place over medium heat and stir continuously until thickened and gently bubbling.

Use a stick or hand mixer to blend everything together, until smooth and creamy. Allow the filling to cool slightly, before transferring to the pie crust.

Place the pie in the oven and bake in the oven for around 40 minutes, until the pastry is golden brown.

Allow the pie to cool completely before refrigerating for at least an hour, to firm up.

Notes
* For a homemade pie crust, add 1 1/4 cups of all-purpose flour, 1 teaspoon of sugar, 1/8 teaspoon salt, and 1/4 cup of cold unsalted butter to a high-speed blender. Blend until a crumbly texture remains. Slowly add 2-3 tablespoons of cold water. Smooth out the dough, cover it in plastic wrap, and refrigerate for an hour.
TO STORE: Leftovers can be stored in the refrigerator in an airtight container for up to one week.
TO FREEZE: Place slices of the pumpkin pie in a shallow container and store it in the freezer for up to six months.

Happy Thanksgiving.
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karmakaziXpert karmakaziXpert 1 month ago
Anyone have a good proven recipe for pumpkin pie? Can I use a sweetener instead of sugar? Best cream?

Looking like a small runway for stock takeoff if the company can get things cleaned up before mid December. Donโ€™t let it close.

Knitting many things for presents this year. Saving alot of money this way. But, looking for a reliable online company that prints names on golfballs.

Hereโ€™s to 2025 being a Goodyear!
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drugmanrx drugmanrx 1 month ago
What make sense, the clock is ticking

Gina going home.

Solar losing status

Incentives drying up

Tariffs gaining strength

American jobs a priority

Chinese circumventing tariffs

Interest rates going down

Foreign investment welcomed

Made in AMERICA BY AMERICANS A PRIORITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT IS NOW OR NEVER!
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wassabi21 wassabi21 1 month ago
Good theory but then no algo trading today. Doesn't make any sense.
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Rhinoguy Rhinoguy 1 month ago
Hi Everyone: On 11/21/2024 (yesterday), the price of $SNPW was lifted by an algorithm. Click the following link (Posted By: jk1):
https://investorshangout.com/timeandsales/SNPW
Note: (1) Look at the constant 100 volume & then, 1. (2) Algorithm tried to suppress it at $2.00 (midday). (3) Finally, algorithm did a surprising thing:
11/21/2024 15:05:01 ET I 2.35 1
(With just 1 share)!
Conclusion: Algorithm will take it up from here (Fingers crossed)! Hint: Look at each tradeโ€™s volume at price: $2.128.

Itโ€™s the same algorithm that took the price down from $1.83 to $1.38 a few days ago (number manipulation).

With this price appreciation, surprisingly, retails jumped in. My guess is that itโ€™s gonna slowly run from here. I repeat, slowly (even if no PRs). Now, Iโ€™m waiting for Nickโ€™s PRs/Filings based on โ€œExciting developments aheadโ€ twit, posted weeks ago!
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wallstreet1231 wallstreet1231 1 month ago
Another post by Little Ricki that has zero to do with snpw - always about a third party.

Little Ricki, do you even have a clue as to the business focus of snpw. Doubt it.
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rickstereo3333 rickstereo3333 1 month ago
@ DAK THE IMPERSONATOR, ie the stock scammer who in a text msg exchange with SNPWs prospective business partner (Mr D. Moss), comically attempted to impersonate a lawyer, and then proceeded to demand the production of communications between SNPW and Mr Moss under the threat of a Subpoena to be issued by the "Tooth Fairy" 🧚.

It must be duly noted that every time proof of this illegal act is revealed on this forum by Dman, a certain individual, that will remain unnamed (wink wink), literally becomes and unhinged mess.....I wonder why!?!?!

Yes!!!.....impersonating a Lawyer is indeed illegal, and more so when same is done in an attempt to EXTORT Non Public Info about a publicly traded company.
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bunda bunda 1 month ago
Lol. This is messed up
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dakotasentme dakotasentme 1 month ago
DAK the IMPERSONATOR
What the hell are you talking about?
Has everyone gone mad?
I'll say it again from the cheap seats:
I HAVE ONE, AND ONLY ONE, ACCOUNT ON THESE BOARDS!!
Ricky, again, if you can prove otherwise I will publicly apologize and leave FOREVER!
PUT UP OR STFU!!
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rickstereo3333 rickstereo3333 1 month ago
SNPWs X posts informs shareholders and the general public about what the company intends to do (Forward Looking Statements) so any claim that these posts are DEFINITIVE, ie they provide "facts and data" are????........yes, once again utterly imbecilic!

Nothing yet revealed by SNPW has indicated and/or confirmed any facts, as of yet, that reveal details about the proposed Plant, Solray, Australia, Sales Rev$ etc which would positively impact the lagging PPS in any meaningful way.

Its quite apparent that YOU and DAK the IMPERSONATOR needs to become proficient in reading and comprehension.


#lowiqscammers
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wallstreet1231 wallstreet1231 1 month ago
Little Ricky, I suggest you educate yourself on how public companies can use twitter which has been sanctioned by the sec. Start here:

SEC Says Social Media OK for Company Announcements if Investors Are Alerted
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
2013-51
Washington, D.C., April 2, 2013 โ€”
The Securities and Exchange Commission today issued a report that makes clear that companies can use social media outlets like Facebook and Twitter to announce key information in compliance with Regulation Fair Disclosure (Regulation FD) so long as investors have been alerted about which social media will be used to disseminate such information.

https://www.sec.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2013-2013-51htm#:~:text=The%20Securities%20and%20Exchange%20Commission,media%20will%20be%20used%20to

You really need to educate yourself on a subject before blabbing.
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dakotasentme dakotasentme 1 month ago
Back up the bus here, Ricky
so to assert that SNPWs X posts are somehow definitive in terms of supplying shareholders and/or prospective ones, with the "FACTS and DATA" you inanely demanded in that earlier post, is once again utterly imbecilic!
Are you suggesting that all of the tweets provided by the company, on the SEC sanctioned X platform for shareholder information, is in fact a ruse?
While I, as a verified shareholder, am blocked from said X account, JK1 provides near hourly regurgitations across these boards of Nick's X posts and claiming it all to be gospel as one of the only ways we're supposed to receive factual accounts of what's happening with SNPW. His words, not mine.

You're getting to be on par with another famous spin doctor, or shall I say pharmacist, on these boards....
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